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<blockquote data-quote="Darwin" data-source="post: 652906" data-attributes="member: 24910"><p>Nowhere in the TMO protocols (as far as I'm aware) does it state anything about "100% evidence" being required. I'm not sure of the exact wording, but it is something along the lines of 'clear and obvious'. Based on the video (and my limited understanding of physics) I think it was <em>clear and obvious</em> that the ball was held up. Obviously you don't, which is fine. As I've mentioned before how people interpret 'clear and obvious' varies. Surely you can accept that? </p><p></p><p>For about the 10th time (and I will put it in bold to make sure you understand) - <strong>whether the ball was actually grounded or not is not the point I'm debating!</strong> The only 'evidence' that is relevant to my point is the communication between the ref and TMO. That's all. If I had 100 different angle each which showed the ball wasn't grounded it wouldn't make the point I'm making any more (or less) valid. If you think there was no issue with the communication between the ref and TMO that's fine. I, and numerous other do. The debate between the TMO and referee has been described as <a href="http://www.rugby365.com/article/60595-all-blacks-edge-england-again" target="_blank">comical</a>, and former test referee and IRB referees selector Bob Francis was <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/10164909/Ex-test-referee-Officials-blew-Mike-Brown-try" target="_blank">'baffled'</a> by the communication. No-one (as far as I know) is suggesting the officials should be lynched. I just think there was obviously issues with the communication between the officials, which was a very bad look for the game....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darwin, post: 652906, member: 24910"] Nowhere in the TMO protocols (as far as I'm aware) does it state anything about "100% evidence" being required. I'm not sure of the exact wording, but it is something along the lines of 'clear and obvious'. Based on the video (and my limited understanding of physics) I think it was [I]clear and obvious[/I] that the ball was held up. Obviously you don't, which is fine. As I've mentioned before how people interpret 'clear and obvious' varies. Surely you can accept that? For about the 10th time (and I will put it in bold to make sure you understand) - [B]whether the ball was actually grounded or not is not the point I'm debating![/B] The only 'evidence' that is relevant to my point is the communication between the ref and TMO. That's all. If I had 100 different angle each which showed the ball wasn't grounded it wouldn't make the point I'm making any more (or less) valid. If you think there was no issue with the communication between the ref and TMO that's fine. I, and numerous other do. The debate between the TMO and referee has been described as [URL="http://www.rugby365.com/article/60595-all-blacks-edge-england-again"]comical[/URL], and former test referee and IRB referees selector Bob Francis was [URL="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/10164909/Ex-test-referee-Officials-blew-Mike-Brown-try"]'baffled'[/URL] by the communication. No-one (as far as I know) is suggesting the officials should be lynched. I just think there was obviously issues with the communication between the officials, which was a very bad look for the game.... [/QUOTE]
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