The new Super 14season, what are the expectations

Discussion in 'Super Rugby' started by bates, Sep 16, 2008.

  1. bates

    bates Guest

    Aight, 5 more months before the season starts, 4 more before the testmatches start what are your expectations, who will win the cup?

    Crusaders made a great loss by letting Deans go and Carter off to Europe for 6 months.
    Hurricanes played an awesome season last year, can they continue this form.

    Will an Aussie or SA team win the cup in 2009?


    I'm getting excited :D :D
     
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  3. Jer1cho

    Jer1cho Guest

    With Frans Steyn and Ruan Pienaar finding their feet, as well as players like Rory Kockot (SP?), Ryan Kankowski, Keegan Daniel, Bismark du Plessis and the Beast, i have a feeling the Sharks are going to win a long awaited tournament...
     
  4. Steve-o

    Steve-o Guest

    The Test matches start in roughly 2 months.
     
  5. bates

    bates Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steve-o @ Sep 16 2008, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

    Even better :D , I thought 4 cuase the contactgeezer from the chiefs said January.

    Anyway, looking forward to the new comers and really anxcious who's going to replace Carter and if that guy can handle the pressure.
     
  6. BLR

    BLR Guest

    Bit early isn't it?

    Tahs to go bankrupt with the Force destroy everyone. South African teams go back to their losing ways as well.
     
  7. QLD

    QLD Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BLR @ Sep 16 2008, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Expectations for the Force now is they should be the best Aussie side next year and make the finals at least (top 6 now so its easier) and not choke like they did this year. You blokes deserve it after those good crowds, shames is a terrible stadium for rugby and in general. BTW BLR, how much did you pay for membership, presuming you are a Force member?

    Reds for another **** year. Wooo!
     
  8. BLR

    BLR Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (QLD @ Sep 16 2008, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    I THINK it's around $700 this season for my Diamond membership, not sure though as I am not going to be here to go to games. The Force have to play a large rent to bloody the AFL douches to use Subi so it's a tad inflated.
     
  9. QLD

    QLD Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BLR @ Sep 16 2008, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    I THINK it's around $700 this season for my Diamond membership, not sure though as I am not going to be here to go to games. The Force have to play a large rent to bloody the AFL douches to use Subi so it's a tad inflated.
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    WHAT, paying over 100 a game, thats heaps
     
  10. bates

    bates Guest

    Yeah, it's very pricey, when I saw some of the Chiefs games it wasn't that much, altho crappy seats, but we just went for the atmosphere. :D
     
  11. BLR

    BLR Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (QLD @ Sep 16 2008, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    The rent is huge plus I have the best seats in the house with all kinds of extra benefits....basically the A level package.
     
  12. The Brumbies make the finals.
    The flowers dont win the super 14 B)
    The force are shite and dont make the finals. :p :lol:

    Oh and BLR the WA govt owns the stadium and gets the rent "the AFL douches" (actually the WAFC who runs the local football league etc and is independent from AFL afaik runs it) just run it and maintain it.

    But hey don't let the truth get in the way of bagging out the AFL because its beneath you. :toss:
     
  13. Fushitsusha

    Fushitsusha Guest

    My early predictions - all of the Aussie Super 14 sides will improve from this year... except for the Waratahs...


    THE BRUMBIES

    Firstly they'll have a point to prove after their worst season ever, and having several worthy players snubbed by Robbie Deans.

    They've got a new coach in Andy Friend who will hopefully take them back to the rightful place as the top Australian side. He's a back specialist and it would be great to see him bring back the exciting running rugby the Brumbies are generally known for.

    There have also been some important signings in the off season with Stephen Moore, Alfi Mafi, and Sitaleki Timani (the biggest Aussie lock in the Super 14, second tallest in the comp. behind Bekker).

    Moore should bring a consistency in the set piece which the Brumbies were lacking in this year. His lineout throwing is the best in Australia, and with Chisholm, Kimlin, Timani, Chapman, and Hoiles at his disposal it should really be one area where the Brumbies should be strong. Moore will also make an exciting new front row combination with Alexander and Shepherdson.

    Rathbone is finally back from injury and has been outstanding for Easts in the Shute Shield. It would be nice to see him find that form from 2004 when he was an absolute try-machine.

    The only area where the Brumbies are most vulnerable is at flyhalf, but Lealiifano should be better after his first season in the competition. As will Toomua.

    And hopefully we get our moneys worth with Josh Holmes.

    I expect them to finish in the top 7 but I won't be happy until we make the finals again. But 5th would still be much better than this year.

    Anyways, they just some consistency. They were hot and cold all year. Highlighted by their game against the Force.


    THE REDS

    I was wrong to think that they would be a far stronger team this year with Mooney coaching and a lot of good signings, but for the most part they were the same Reds we've seen in recent years.

    However, they did begin to play exciting rugby in the latter half of the competition and some of their new Wallaby stars should hopefully lift them next year.

    They've got a strong pack with the best scrum in Australia and a generally solid lineout.

    I think they'll improve slightly but won't be any real threat. Oh, and McMenimum will only play 2 games and yet somehow get picked for the Wallabies.... again.



    THE FORCE

    Once again, I don't think the Force have the right balance to be a real threat. I expect them to excel in parts of the year, and be absolutely woeful in others... again.

    Their scrum is still quite possibly the worst in the competition. Their lineout does well thanks to Sharpe. And they've got a couple of good backrowers in Brown and Pocock.

    Their real talent is in the backline, but if Giteau gets injured - they're a mess. Without Giteau there's no one to guide them.

    So, if Giteau plays well they'll play well.



    THE WARATAHS

    They'll be without Vickerman and Elsom. Probably their two most important players as they give them a very dominant lineout, and a general toughness that the team lacks without them. I think it might be hard for their forwards to really fire without them. And if their forwards aren't going well then their backline will struggle.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see them revert back to their 2007 form. Probably not as bad though.

    Oh, and they've got a new coach in Chris Hickey. Is he good enough? Isn't Eastwood not doing that well in the Shute Shield? Will Tahu be the next biggest rugby league hype to fail?

    I guess we'll find out in 5 months...


    EDIT:

    On a side note, it'll be interesting to see what the changes in 2010 bring to the competition with international marquee players being allowed into the Australian teams...

    I don't know about the other provinces, but apprarently the Brumbies already have a lot of interest from South African players... including a few big name players... as well a good deal of interest from some English players thanks to Andy Friend's time there recently.

    Is this how we're going to fix our scrum woes?
     
  14. BLR

    BLR Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redunderthebed @ Sep 16 2008, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    You seriously going to argue WA issues with me? The WAFC have an 100 year $1 lease (I think that's the figure) on the land at Subiaco and have total ownership, they give nothing to the government. The government puts money into the stadium in the past but the ownership is all to do with the WAFC who whinge the hell out of it. And the reason I said 'AFL' is that its an international forum and that's how people would know it by.
     
  15. munross

    munross Guest

    I just have a feeling the 2009 Super 14 will be won by either the Stormers of Western Force....(Hopefully the Stormers!)
     
  16. candybum

    candybum Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ross munro @ Sep 17 2008, 08:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Seem to have a theme there somewhat, but what about the Hurricanes lol
     
  17. Crusaders to destroy the competition once again...
     
  18. candybum

    candybum Guest

    Hmm i dont expect the Blues to do too well under a new coach in Pat Lam, but come 2010 then they'll come through the season undefeated having mastered his new game plan and stuff hehe just like the ANZCup side!
     
  19. nam97

    nam97 Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (candybum @ Sep 17 2008, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Well at least Nucifora has gone, Auckland will surely be better off under Pat. Still can't see them getting far.

    It's going to be the Crusaders and Hurricanes who will again lead the way for NZ I reckon. Hope Otago does better than last year, not many positive signs though.
     
  20. candybum

    candybum Guest

    Yeah Good riddance to Nucifora! lol I heard that Ali Williams is trying to come back up to the Blues ay but has contractual issues with Tasman/Crusaders? Hopefully he can gap it from there lol

    A few Highlanders who are playing in the ANZCup are playing really well, Mike Delany's form for the BOP has been real good.

    I read Ezra(sp?) Taylor is gone to the Reds next season?
     
  21. Fushitsusha

    Fushitsusha Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLegg @ Sep 17 2008, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    I think they'll do well (as per usual)... but how well?

    What impact (if any) will Deans and Carter's departure have on them?
     
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