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The RWC CHAMPIONS gloating thread
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<blockquote data-quote="Ospervat" data-source="post: 769330" data-attributes="member: 72942"><p>Not so much invalid or irrelevant as compromised. When you don't have a team that has been consistently recognised as amongst the best in the world for over a century represented at a major tournament it does raise the opportunity to dispute any claims.</p><p></p><p>Consider North American Major League Baseball who have their World Series. Is the winner really world champions when they haven't played anyone else outside their own continent. Academic I know but true nonetheless.</p><p></p><p>Another example would be the 1980 & 1984 Olympic Games with the US (+allies) and the USSR boycotting each other's games. Can the winners of all those events truly claim to be the best in the world at that time knowing that such strong opponents weren't represented.</p><p></p><p>Consider for a moment if you will, if the AB's due to some freak of events were unable to attend RWC 2015 and Australia won the final against SA would the Kiwis recognise Oz as the world champs. I doubt it. There will always be that "what if" element to consider.</p><p></p><p>I should add that I have had the personal displeasure of making Luyts acquaintance some 35 years ago over a short period of time and I want to make it perfectly clear he was a #%*â'¬ then and I'm sure he hadn't changed in 1995.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ospervat, post: 769330, member: 72942"] Not so much invalid or irrelevant as compromised. When you don't have a team that has been consistently recognised as amongst the best in the world for over a century represented at a major tournament it does raise the opportunity to dispute any claims. Consider North American Major League Baseball who have their World Series. Is the winner really world champions when they haven't played anyone else outside their own continent. Academic I know but true nonetheless. Another example would be the 1980 & 1984 Olympic Games with the US (+allies) and the USSR boycotting each other's games. Can the winners of all those events truly claim to be the best in the world at that time knowing that such strong opponents weren't represented. Consider for a moment if you will, if the AB's due to some freak of events were unable to attend RWC 2015 and Australia won the final against SA would the Kiwis recognise Oz as the world champs. I doubt it. There will always be that "what if" element to consider. I should add that I have had the personal displeasure of making Luyts acquaintance some 35 years ago over a short period of time and I want to make it perfectly clear he was a #%*€ then and I'm sure he hadn't changed in 1995. [/QUOTE]
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