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Tri Nations 2009-2011
Tri Nations: Springboks - All Blacks @ Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium (20-8-2011, 15:05)
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<blockquote data-quote="Shaggy" data-source="post: 434968" data-attributes="member: 43400"><p>Yeah, I don't really agree with you on this occasion Fluke ... it's unfair to use the Rugby League scoring system as a model for how Rugby Union should go, because many of the types of offenses that union players get penalised for, do not exist in league, as in dropping the scrum to prevent quick play from the scrum, handling the ball in the ruck, tackler not rolling away, players lying in the ruck.</p><p></p><p>... all of these offenses are designed to slow the team on attack down, while the defense regroups ... surely if a penalty is worth more, it's a greater incentive for players not commit the offence in the first place, and thus should contribute to the speed of the game.</p><p></p><p>... also, if a player commits a cynical foul while protecting their goal line, more often than not, their team has to commit multiple offences before one of their players is carded, so, while they probably are conceding three points, they are actually preventing the attacking team from scoring five or seven points by preventing a try, so they have already, in effect, been rewarded by two or four points ... why reward them further by lessening what a penalty is worth.</p><p></p><p>I put those that want to lessen what a penalty kick is worth, in the same basket, as those that advocate that the scrum rules should change, just because their team's scrum is weaker than other teams scrums ... just because it doesn't suit the way your team likes to play, or the type of game you like, does not mean the rules need to change.</p><p></p><p>... If you don't like how much a penalty is worth, players need to quit giving away penalties, then teams can't score from them, can they</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shaggy, post: 434968, member: 43400"] Yeah, I don't really agree with you on this occasion Fluke ... it's unfair to use the Rugby League scoring system as a model for how Rugby Union should go, because many of the types of offenses that union players get penalised for, do not exist in league, as in dropping the scrum to prevent quick play from the scrum, handling the ball in the ruck, tackler not rolling away, players lying in the ruck. ... all of these offenses are designed to slow the team on attack down, while the defense regroups ... surely if a penalty is worth more, it's a greater incentive for players not commit the offence in the first place, and thus should contribute to the speed of the game. ... also, if a player commits a cynical foul while protecting their goal line, more often than not, their team has to commit multiple offences before one of their players is carded, so, while they probably are conceding three points, they are actually preventing the attacking team from scoring five or seven points by preventing a try, so they have already, in effect, been rewarded by two or four points ... why reward them further by lessening what a penalty is worth. I put those that want to lessen what a penalty kick is worth, in the same basket, as those that advocate that the scrum rules should change, just because their team's scrum is weaker than other teams scrums ... just because it doesn't suit the way your team likes to play, or the type of game you like, does not mean the rules need to change. ... If you don't like how much a penalty is worth, players need to quit giving away penalties, then teams can't score from them, can they [/QUOTE]
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