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Tri Nations 2009-2011
Tri Nations: Springboks - All Blacks @ Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium (20-8-2011, 15:05)
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<blockquote data-quote="FlukeArtist" data-source="post: 435019" data-attributes="member: 42995"><p>@ Shaggy</p><p></p><p>A couple of counter-points to your argument:</p><p></p><p>1. Under a law change they would still be getting 2 points for the penalty in all those situations, plus the referee still has the option of cards. Multiple offences still are punishable.</p><p></p><p>2. The breakdown penalties is such a grey area anyway, that the referree ostensibly "gifting" 3 points to the opposition is in reality WAY too harsh in some circumstances. How many times have you watched a game where you can not work out why the referee has penalised one team or the other? I would argue that you would see this at least once if you watched 2 games of rugby. </p><p></p><p>3. Comparing the penalty points change to a change in scrum rules is comparing oranges and apples. It is a red herring and one has little to do with the other in terms of the points argument. I don't condone changing scrum riles, I love the scrum (being a hooker myself). If you change those rules, then you may as well take away lineouts and contesting for the ball at breakdowns, and turn it into league. As I say- scrum rules have nothing to do with changing the pints structure.</p><p></p><p>4. None of your points really address the key issue I was trying to raise regarding growing the game and its value as "entertainment"</p><p></p><p>5. If this your opinion on penalties, where do you stand re Drop goals?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FlukeArtist, post: 435019, member: 42995"] @ Shaggy A couple of counter-points to your argument: 1. Under a law change they would still be getting 2 points for the penalty in all those situations, plus the referee still has the option of cards. Multiple offences still are punishable. 2. The breakdown penalties is such a grey area anyway, that the referree ostensibly "gifting" 3 points to the opposition is in reality WAY too harsh in some circumstances. How many times have you watched a game where you can not work out why the referee has penalised one team or the other? I would argue that you would see this at least once if you watched 2 games of rugby. 3. Comparing the penalty points change to a change in scrum rules is comparing oranges and apples. It is a red herring and one has little to do with the other in terms of the points argument. I don't condone changing scrum riles, I love the scrum (being a hooker myself). If you change those rules, then you may as well take away lineouts and contesting for the ball at breakdowns, and turn it into league. As I say- scrum rules have nothing to do with changing the pints structure. 4. None of your points really address the key issue I was trying to raise regarding growing the game and its value as "entertainment" 5. If this your opinion on penalties, where do you stand re Drop goals? [/QUOTE]
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