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<blockquote data-quote="Big Ewis" data-source="post: 630906" data-attributes="member: 57076"><p>it's true, he might affect the English attack as a whole in a not-so-beneficial way.</p><p>But <strong>goodnumber10</strong> you say he only manages to puncture through weak defenses, that's just absurd. Most "good teams" have their defense focused on him because they know beforehand the load he is and have enough organization in their ranks to get back in position while other teams have more difficulty recovering from his impacts.</p><p>But Tuilagi is responsible for about 2.5/3 tries England scored on NZ in 2012, has scored the one try against Australia that same tour and there are all the other 'smaller' moments where he doesn't actually score tries that I can't mention here in matches against Tier 1 opposition.</p><p></p><p>And trust me as a Frenchman having Bastareaud on my national side I understand the suffocating limits of having a bulldozer but who cannot give a pass and has ultra-narrow vision. We call him a "coffre à ballons" in french, literally a 'safe for balls', i.e. he smothers all the balls he touches and turns into a big safe locking it up.</p><p></p><p>But Manu is a more capable passer than that, and he's so mobile and is like a bull. Personally I'd go 12.Twelvetrees 13.Tuilagi, 23. Burrell.</p><p>He beats far more defenders than Burrell, requires 3 guys to take down (Burrell doesn't), tackles much harder (dunno the stats, speaking out of memory), I'm pretty sure runs faster, breaks through tackles much more easily and is 100x more likely to pierce a hole in the defense...</p><p></p><p>Burrell might have qualities over Tuilagi, but with all that in mind there's no doubt for me, personally.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Big Ewis, post: 630906, member: 57076"] it's true, he might affect the English attack as a whole in a not-so-beneficial way. But [B]goodnumber10[/B] you say he only manages to puncture through weak defenses, that's just absurd. Most "good teams" have their defense focused on him because they know beforehand the load he is and have enough organization in their ranks to get back in position while other teams have more difficulty recovering from his impacts. But Tuilagi is responsible for about 2.5/3 tries England scored on NZ in 2012, has scored the one try against Australia that same tour and there are all the other 'smaller' moments where he doesn't actually score tries that I can't mention here in matches against Tier 1 opposition. And trust me as a Frenchman having Bastareaud on my national side I understand the suffocating limits of having a bulldozer but who cannot give a pass and has ultra-narrow vision. We call him a "coffre à ballons" in french, literally a 'safe for balls', i.e. he smothers all the balls he touches and turns into a big safe locking it up. But Manu is a more capable passer than that, and he's so mobile and is like a bull. Personally I'd go 12.Twelvetrees 13.Tuilagi, 23. Burrell. He beats far more defenders than Burrell, requires 3 guys to take down (Burrell doesn't), tackles much harder (dunno the stats, speaking out of memory), I'm pretty sure runs faster, breaks through tackles much more easily and is 100x more likely to pierce a hole in the defense... Burrell might have qualities over Tuilagi, but with all that in mind there's no doubt for me, personally. [/QUOTE]
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