Union vs League Balls...Is there a difference?

Discussion in 'General Rugby Union' started by O'Rothlain, May 10, 2008.

  1. O'Rothlain

    O'Rothlain Guest

    So, I just realized that the company that owns Gilbert coincidntly owns Steeden. My question now is "Is there a feckin' difference between the two balls?"
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  3. sanzar

    sanzar Guest

    Yes, as you can see from the photo the League ball isn't quite as round and is also actually a bit longer. The difference comes from the larger emphasis on kicking in Union compared to the predominantly passing game of league (i.e the bullet like league ball is easier to pass while the slightly rounder union ball has a larger sweet spot for kicking).
     
  4. Haysie

    Haysie Guest

    Interesting you should say that, sanzar, I would have thought that League is more inclined toward kicking as you're almost forced to kick on the last. I reckon the end-over-end pass they've developed in League must have something to do with the fact that it's either harder to torpedo-pass or they just don't have the passing distance.
    I don't find it very fun trying to torpedo kick a League ball, either haha...
     
  5. Gay-Guy

    Gay-Guy Guest

    The end over end pass in league is quite accurate over distance compared to the gilbert which tends to not go that far when it is passed end over end.

    Gilberts are made to withstand pressure...rucks and bodies squashing it. Steedmans are great balls to pass with and can get sent quickly with less arm swing...therefore quicker wrist movements can get a similar result with a steedman as an arm swing with a gilbert. In fact Steemans are such great balls to pass with that we actually prefer playing with the junior version of them instead of the official NZTA touch ball when we play touch.

    If you played rugby with a steedman there would be too many knock ons in the rucks. Steedman may be a better ball to pass with but it is too difficult to handle in a ruck.
     
  6. Haysie

    Haysie Guest

    The end over end pass in league is quite accurate over distance compared to the gilbert which tends to not go that far when it is passed end over end.

    Gilberts are made to withstand pressure...rucks and bodies squashing it. Steedmans are great balls to pass with and can get sent quickly with less arm swing...therefore quicker wrist movements can get a similar result with a steedman as an arm swing with a gilbert. In fact Steemans are such great balls to pass with that we actually prefer playing with the junior version of them instead of the official NZTA touch ball when we play touch.

    If you played rugby with a steedman there would be too many knock ons in the rucks. Steedman may be a better ball to pass with but it is too difficult to handle in a ruck.
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    Yeah fair enough, although watching Quade Cooper tonight throwing those end-over-end passes you could almost reckon that he's training for a switch to league already!
    Personally I prefer the Gilberts, Buffalos or Mitre balls for passing as they seem to almost glide through the air, whereas the League balls that I have mucked around with don't have that same centre of gravity.
     
  7. Noticeably different.
     
  8. O'Rothlain

    O'Rothlain Guest

    Interesting...I'd love to get my hand on a league ball to check it out. However league is almost non-existant here...
    But a League Ball and an Aussie Rules Ball are the same???? :bleh!:
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  9. jeffb

    jeffb Guest



    nah, AFL ball more stubby than RL ball
     
  10. DH1972

    DH1972 Guest

    Completing the set - is there a difference between NFL and CFL balls?

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  11. Haysie

    Haysie Guest

    Lol and an AFL ball is made of leather! :p I wish they'd bring back the torpedo in AFL.
     
  12. melon

    melon Guest

    I doubt it, because they are both Gridiron balls.
     
  13. Haysie

    Haysie Guest

    Isn't gridiron the name of the field?
     
  14. DH1972

    DH1972 Guest

    Yeah, nothing to do with the ball.


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  15. O'Rothlain

    O'Rothlain Guest

    I've only seen part of one CFL game in my whole life. Didn't care for it. However there is a difference between a High School Football, a Colegiate Football and an NFL Football.

    No, gridiron is slang that we don't actually use much here. It's probably like us calling your Football "Soccer".


    In reference to the Aussie Rules Balls, what was the "Torpedo"?
     
  16. InsaneAsylum

    InsaneAsylum Guest

    the "torpedo" is the name we call the spiral punt kicks in AFL. you rarely see a player use this type of kick these days. it was used a lot more in the 70's and before, along with the drop kick. the drop punt is really the only kick used in afl, along with banana or checkside punts (used when the ball is required to curve). occasionally a player might use the torpedo for extra distance kicks.
     
  17. Lol, totally wrong. A league ball is more round, and the union ball is more bullet like.

    League balls traditionally have 8 panels

    That picture which is used of the league ball is quite decieving, it's been stretched or something.
     
  18. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

    Well, the one of the right has stripes, and if these are anything like speed-stripes on a car, it'll make the ball much more aerodynamic and will move much faster when passed/kicked
     
  19. Swansea99

    Swansea99 Guest

    Nah, not really.
     
  20. USA_Rugby

    USA_Rugby Guest

    Well, the one of the right has stripes, and if these are anything like speed-stripes on a car, it'll make the ball much more aerodynamic and will move much faster when passed/kicked
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    Aren't speed stripes on a car just painted on?
     
  21. melon

    melon Guest

    Well, the one of the right has stripes, and if these are anything like speed-stripes on a car, it'll make the ball much more aerodynamic and will move much faster when passed/kicked
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    Aren't speed stripes on a car just painted on? [/b][/quote]
    Yes USA_Rugby...Olyy is just having us on. Either that or he has a screw loose.

    "speed stripes" don't make a difference at all USA_Rugby. ;)
     
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