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<blockquote data-quote="dullonien" data-source="post: 288084"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melhor Time @ Nov 17 2009, 06:18 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=421615" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p>Argentina played a game plan that suited them as they were without their top three flyhalves and top two 12´s. They also had three of their top five backrowers out injured and their top three wingers were all injured too. Yet, they almost won the game. Not, what I would call an awful performance at all. It was set up for them to be crushed, but they did very well. They had 4 amateur players in the XV, inc at 10 and 12 yet Wilkinson and Geraghty were unable to do much at all. </p><p></p><p>Santiago Fernandez was under strict instructions to put the ball high and it worked. How many times did England make mistakes in this department? And, it certainly is good enough to win games like the biggest games of them all. As Shtove has said France vs Argentina, September 07, 2007, ala Rugby World Cup openning match. This is all Hernandez did and Argentina won 17-12. </p><p></p><p>Here you go: </p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsXlVYgzVeg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsXlVYgzVeg</a></p><p></p><p>An underperforming England should have been far too strong for an Argentine team missing 6 first choice players. The fact that they were unable to do much speaks volumns for Argentina´s defence and the abilities of their players. </p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p></p><p>In an interview, the coach and two senior players have said they won´t be playing the same way. They will be using more backs but will still take it to the oposition with their front five. Here is the video:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2w-1UVl-pQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2w-1UVl-pQ</a></p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>Fair enough. Sorry for not giving Argentina a fair assesment. I understand that Argentina have a host of very important players missing. Yes Argentina kept the scores close, but that reflects more on England than it does on Argentina. England persited in kicking all their posetion away, even though they were loosing that particular battle. I can't see Wales doing the same thing. We've got a back three which are very capable of countering, and against Argentina I can see that being the tactics. We've gotta run them ragged, moving that big heavy pack around the field, hopefully tiring them out so we can compete up front. </p><p></p><p>Apart from once in the second half where Wilkinson easily broke through, I can't remember another time where Wilkinson or Geraghty attacked the defensive line. You can be sure that Jon Davies and Roberts will put the amateur players at 10 and 12 to the test defensively. To be honest, I can't see them containing those two either.</p><p></p><p>It will be close, but only because Argentina will dominate the scrums. If that weren't the case, I think Wales would win comfertoubly. I honestly think that apart from the front 5, Samoa are a better team than this Argentinian one. Just looking at the two backlines proves this. The likes of the Tuilagi brothers put in some big hit's to save tries. I can't see where that's gonna come from in this Argentinian backline. I can see Wales producing numerous clean breaks again this week, and with Shane Williams back to run supporting lines, we should get a couple more tries.</p><p></p><p>If this was a full strength Argentinian side with Hernandez etc.etc. all playing, I think Argentina would take this game. But as it is, I'd be hugely ****** off if Wales lost.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="dullonien, post: 288084"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melhor Time @ Nov 17 2009, 06:18 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=421615']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> Argentina played a game plan that suited them as they were without their top three flyhalves and top two 12´s. They also had three of their top five backrowers out injured and their top three wingers were all injured too. Yet, they almost won the game. Not, what I would call an awful performance at all. It was set up for them to be crushed, but they did very well. They had 4 amateur players in the XV, inc at 10 and 12 yet Wilkinson and Geraghty were unable to do much at all. Santiago Fernandez was under strict instructions to put the ball high and it worked. How many times did England make mistakes in this department? And, it certainly is good enough to win games like the biggest games of them all. As Shtove has said France vs Argentina, September 07, 2007, ala Rugby World Cup openning match. This is all Hernandez did and Argentina won 17-12. Here you go: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsXlVYgzVeg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsXlVYgzVeg[/url] An underperforming England should have been far too strong for an Argentine team missing 6 first choice players. The fact that they were unable to do much speaks volumns for Argentina´s defence and the abilities of their players. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> In an interview, the coach and two senior players have said they won´t be playing the same way. They will be using more backs but will still take it to the oposition with their front five. Here is the video: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2w-1UVl-pQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2w-1UVl-pQ[/url] [/b][/quote] Fair enough. Sorry for not giving Argentina a fair assesment. I understand that Argentina have a host of very important players missing. Yes Argentina kept the scores close, but that reflects more on England than it does on Argentina. England persited in kicking all their posetion away, even though they were loosing that particular battle. I can't see Wales doing the same thing. We've got a back three which are very capable of countering, and against Argentina I can see that being the tactics. We've gotta run them ragged, moving that big heavy pack around the field, hopefully tiring them out so we can compete up front. Apart from once in the second half where Wilkinson easily broke through, I can't remember another time where Wilkinson or Geraghty attacked the defensive line. You can be sure that Jon Davies and Roberts will put the amateur players at 10 and 12 to the test defensively. To be honest, I can't see them containing those two either. It will be close, but only because Argentina will dominate the scrums. If that weren't the case, I think Wales would win comfertoubly. I honestly think that apart from the front 5, Samoa are a better team than this Argentinian one. Just looking at the two backlines proves this. The likes of the Tuilagi brothers put in some big hit's to save tries. I can't see where that's gonna come from in this Argentinian backline. I can see Wales producing numerous clean breaks again this week, and with Shane Williams back to run supporting lines, we should get a couple more tries. If this was a full strength Argentinian side with Hernandez etc.etc. all playing, I think Argentina would take this game. But as it is, I'd be hugely ****** off if Wales lost. [/QUOTE]
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