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<blockquote data-quote="Melhor Time" data-source="post: 288861"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dullonien @ Nov 21 2009, 08:54 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=422368" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mate, try actually looking at the video I supplied before posting. </p><p></p><p><strong>Luke Cherteris (Not Alun-Wyn) was very close to being off side, if not was. He did retreat, but was it to behind the backfoot? possibly not, but that kinda call happens in every game of rugby.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong>As the video shows he was on the ground, then stood up in an offside position and then charged down the kick. Never did he attempt to get onside and the ref made a poor call in not seeing this. I have already said when this happens and have supplied the video. Watch it.</p><p></p><p><strong>For the third try, the only thing you can pull it up on was Rees' tackle. Was it late? No, he was committed. Was it an illegal challenge? Not in my opinion, he looks like was was pulling out of the tackle.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong>Actually there are three problems: 1. was the tackle late? Yes it was. 2. Was he committed to making the tackle? No he wasn't. 3. Did he use his arms or just his shoulder in the tackle. The video suggests shoulders. In plain english, three reasons to give Argentina a penalty, yet the ref missed all three and instead gave Wales the try. If he was pulling out of the tackle then it is still, in the least a penalty to Argentina for tackling without arms. Friends on another forum agree rgentins were robbed here and in the second try. Seriously, weatch the viedo evidence I have provided. It is overwhelmingly in support of what I have said. </p><p></p><p><strong>However, Wales were easily the better team in that game and fully deserved the scoreline</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>Utterly irrelvent. Italy were better than New Zealand last week. New Zealand scored more points and won. I know Wales were better today, my post acknowledges this. Argentina, without 6 first choice players should not be competing against Wales or England but they are, they should be getting dominated. Now then, it is unfortunate for them that the referee forgot the offside rules (second try), and the tackle rules (third try). 14 non-valid points he missed. Then there is the first try, which plentty of fans are saying was illegal a the tee carrier was already entereing the field. Plenty of tv evidence supports this too. </p><p></p><p><strong>We know we can create scoring opportunities, and now we know we can finish half chances. When we combine the two effectively, we'll be in buisness big time.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong>Fair point, but vs Samoa Wales couldn't and vs New Zealand Wales also couldn't. In the 6 Nations Wales only scored one try at the Milenium Stadium. I honestly, think this Wales team is severely overrated. The scrumagings of Argentina was talked down yet Wales were cheating the laws, like Italy vs NZ last week, and getting away with it. Don't get me wrong. Good on you. You defeated a world class team. Wales are good, but the reputation suggests they are as good as France or New Zealand which is simply not true at all. No disrepect intended. I like Wales a lot, honestly. </p><p></p><p>Wales should win vs Australia as Australia are not all that good right now. At their best they are like Ireland but at their worst they are far from being a top 8 team. If Argentina had been with their top players who are out injured and without a poor ref helping the opposition, knowingly or not, Wales would have lost this game by 15-20 points just like they did in Buenos Aires in 2006. Wales were very ordinary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Melhor Time, post: 288861"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dullonien @ Nov 21 2009, 08:54 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=422368']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> Mate, try actually looking at the video I supplied before posting. [b]Luke Cherteris (Not Alun-Wyn) was very close to being off side, if not was. He did retreat, but was it to behind the backfoot? possibly not, but that kinda call happens in every game of rugby. [/b]As the video shows he was on the ground, then stood up in an offside position and then charged down the kick. Never did he attempt to get onside and the ref made a poor call in not seeing this. I have already said when this happens and have supplied the video. Watch it. [b]For the third try, the only thing you can pull it up on was Rees' tackle. Was it late? No, he was committed. Was it an illegal challenge? Not in my opinion, he looks like was was pulling out of the tackle. [/b]Actually there are three problems: 1. was the tackle late? Yes it was. 2. Was he committed to making the tackle? No he wasn't. 3. Did he use his arms or just his shoulder in the tackle. The video suggests shoulders. In plain english, three reasons to give Argentina a penalty, yet the ref missed all three and instead gave Wales the try. If he was pulling out of the tackle then it is still, in the least a penalty to Argentina for tackling without arms. Friends on another forum agree rgentins were robbed here and in the second try. Seriously, weatch the viedo evidence I have provided. It is overwhelmingly in support of what I have said. [b]However, Wales were easily the better team in that game and fully deserved the scoreline [/b] Utterly irrelvent. Italy were better than New Zealand last week. New Zealand scored more points and won. I know Wales were better today, my post acknowledges this. Argentina, without 6 first choice players should not be competing against Wales or England but they are, they should be getting dominated. Now then, it is unfortunate for them that the referee forgot the offside rules (second try), and the tackle rules (third try). 14 non-valid points he missed. Then there is the first try, which plentty of fans are saying was illegal a the tee carrier was already entereing the field. Plenty of tv evidence supports this too. [b]We know we can create scoring opportunities, and now we know we can finish half chances. When we combine the two effectively, we'll be in buisness big time. [/b]Fair point, but vs Samoa Wales couldn't and vs New Zealand Wales also couldn't. In the 6 Nations Wales only scored one try at the Milenium Stadium. I honestly, think this Wales team is severely overrated. The scrumagings of Argentina was talked down yet Wales were cheating the laws, like Italy vs NZ last week, and getting away with it. Don't get me wrong. Good on you. You defeated a world class team. Wales are good, but the reputation suggests they are as good as France or New Zealand which is simply not true at all. No disrepect intended. I like Wales a lot, honestly. Wales should win vs Australia as Australia are not all that good right now. At their best they are like Ireland but at their worst they are far from being a top 8 team. If Argentina had been with their top players who are out injured and without a poor ref helping the opposition, knowingly or not, Wales would have lost this game by 15-20 points just like they did in Buenos Aires in 2006. Wales were very ordinary. [/QUOTE]
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