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<blockquote data-quote="Melhor Time" data-source="post: 288956"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dullonien @ Nov 22 2009, 09:57 AM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=422458" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p> </p><p>???? I wrote positive comments of Wales and stated again and again that they should win the game. </p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p></p><p>And you want to say I am writting with bias?</p><p></p><p>Hernandez is unversally considered better. </p><p>Contepomi is universally considered better. </p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p></p><p>I can't believe anybody would think this. How on earth is Jones better than Hernandez? Seriously, how? His running game is weaker, his kicking game is weaker, his defence is weaker. His passing is top class but so is Hernandez's. He out does Hernandez in no part of flyhalf play. </p><p></p><p>Again, as I have said and you can re-read my posts to verify, Stephen Jones is a good player. he did play well and was the best 10 on the field but he was against Argentina's 4th choice 10 and the try he scored was not valid. This is all I was saying. If the try was valid show me how. I have provided the actual law to state my case. </p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p> </p><p>Adam Jones is a good player, as I have said. But he is not up there with the best in the world. He is up there with the best in the home nations but is not as good as the players from France, Argentina, Italy or New Zealand. Wales with their first choice forwards are not as good as los Pumas in my opinion. If you disagree thats no problem. You are welcome to do so. </p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p></p><p>Not for me. Kearney, Ashley-Cooper, Medard and Armitage are better. I would have Byrne (not Burne) over Muliaina. Again, if you disagree no problem. Phillips is very good too but I like Peel more. Both are better than Argentina's players in this position. </p><p></p><p>Wales has plenty of outstanding players. I have always said so. Wales is a world class team because of this. The team is especially talented fom 6-15 with no weaklinks at all. From 1-5 the team is weaker. Hence, the issue of the ref getting it wrong in this area vs Argentina who excell here. Wales have talent in depth in most positions. Byrne missing does not change much as Halfpenny is very good. Tom James is an outstanding wing and can't make the team. Honestly, I think Wales are a great side and never thought they would lose to an Argentina team so depleted. My issue with the refereeing is not against Wales at all. In any event, I consider this case closed because I have shown why what I believe to be bad calls were bad calls. The reason I have posted several times about this is to respond to others. Wales won, Wales were the better team, like I said. </p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p> </p><p>I never said I know more than others and you have entered the debate saying so. I merely stated my case and did so with video evidence and using the laws of the game. I'm not sure why this has you all worked up. </p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p> </p><p>Good, I am sure you do. Most people on forums know a hell of a lot. I don't suggest your knowledge is poor at all. Your posting suggests to me that you love ruugby and are a major fan of Wales. Good for you, thats credible and its always great to chat with rugby fans. But being a knowledgable rugby supporter, you will be well aware that all of Wales's tries were not valid tries. 21 points that should not have been scored. I am not whinging. These things happen but as you will see in my posts people have been saying that they were valid tries in response to me. I have merely provided the neccessary evidence to show why they were not. </p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p></p><p>This was a discussion about tries that were given that should not have been. You have entered with all this name calling and saying I think I know everything. </p><p></p><p>Congratulations on the win. Hopefully in the future you can tone down your posting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Melhor Time, post: 288956"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dullonien @ Nov 22 2009, 09:57 AM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=422458']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> ???? I wrote positive comments of Wales and stated again and again that they should win the game. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> And you want to say I am writting with bias? Hernandez is unversally considered better. Contepomi is universally considered better. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> I can't believe anybody would think this. How on earth is Jones better than Hernandez? Seriously, how? His running game is weaker, his kicking game is weaker, his defence is weaker. His passing is top class but so is Hernandez's. He out does Hernandez in no part of flyhalf play. Again, as I have said and you can re-read my posts to verify, Stephen Jones is a good player. he did play well and was the best 10 on the field but he was against Argentina's 4th choice 10 and the try he scored was not valid. This is all I was saying. If the try was valid show me how. I have provided the actual law to state my case. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> Adam Jones is a good player, as I have said. But he is not up there with the best in the world. He is up there with the best in the home nations but is not as good as the players from France, Argentina, Italy or New Zealand. Wales with their first choice forwards are not as good as los Pumas in my opinion. If you disagree thats no problem. You are welcome to do so. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> Not for me. Kearney, Ashley-Cooper, Medard and Armitage are better. I would have Byrne (not Burne) over Muliaina. Again, if you disagree no problem. Phillips is very good too but I like Peel more. Both are better than Argentina's players in this position. Wales has plenty of outstanding players. I have always said so. Wales is a world class team because of this. The team is especially talented fom 6-15 with no weaklinks at all. From 1-5 the team is weaker. Hence, the issue of the ref getting it wrong in this area vs Argentina who excell here. Wales have talent in depth in most positions. Byrne missing does not change much as Halfpenny is very good. Tom James is an outstanding wing and can't make the team. Honestly, I think Wales are a great side and never thought they would lose to an Argentina team so depleted. My issue with the refereeing is not against Wales at all. In any event, I consider this case closed because I have shown why what I believe to be bad calls were bad calls. The reason I have posted several times about this is to respond to others. Wales won, Wales were the better team, like I said. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> I never said I know more than others and you have entered the debate saying so. I merely stated my case and did so with video evidence and using the laws of the game. I'm not sure why this has you all worked up. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> Good, I am sure you do. Most people on forums know a hell of a lot. I don't suggest your knowledge is poor at all. Your posting suggests to me that you love ruugby and are a major fan of Wales. Good for you, thats credible and its always great to chat with rugby fans. But being a knowledgable rugby supporter, you will be well aware that all of Wales's tries were not valid tries. 21 points that should not have been scored. I am not whinging. These things happen but as you will see in my posts people have been saying that they were valid tries in response to me. I have merely provided the neccessary evidence to show why they were not. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> This was a discussion about tries that were given that should not have been. You have entered with all this name calling and saying I think I know everything. Congratulations on the win. Hopefully in the future you can tone down your posting. [/QUOTE]
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