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<blockquote data-quote="Dizzy" data-source="post: 348014" data-attributes="member: 21905"><p>Mate this started from a ITM Cup, English Premiership arguement and then someone decided to throw the All Blacks into the mix and talk about when we don't win which is very rarely. It wasn't us Kiwi's who started this arguement, we were just saying how important the ITM Cup and the Currie Cup would be for this game before anything was said about World Cups. Ask whoever decided to go and find match figures and state biased World Cup winning stats before defending yourselves as a means to my reaction.</p><p>The degrading part of which I was talking about is how you guys show the ITM Cup no acknowledgement whatsoever.</p><p>I don't care what Wales has/hasn't won, I brought up Wales to hurt you passionate Welshmen because it hurts when us Kiwi's see the New Zealand game be talked down so often regardless of how consistent we are at winning overall.</p><p>No one said the Tri Nations means more, where did you get that from. Sure it was stated that someone would rather have us win constantly between World Cups than win a World Cup and become losers afterwards and to be honest, I prefer that as well and no doubt so would you regardless of the Web Ellis Cup being the pinnacle of World Rugby. To hold bragging rights as the World Cup holders would be among one of the greatest achievements you could ever have. But to be the officially ranked No.1 Side in the World for majority of the time also holds a place up there among the best. You guys may focus all your efforts on the World Cup, where as New Zealand like to focus our efforts on everything.</p><p> </p><p>And now you want to bring up Sevens? Well like I said in my last post. We dominate the World Cup winners and in the Commonwealth Games that just finished. New Zealand set the record for winning a ***le the most consecutive times in competition. 4th Commonwealth Games ***le and also, they have never lost a Commonwealth Games Match. And also effortlessly defeated the mighty World Cup holders who finished close to nowhere. But all that matters to you guys is the World Cup right?...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dizzy, post: 348014, member: 21905"] Mate this started from a ITM Cup, English Premiership arguement and then someone decided to throw the All Blacks into the mix and talk about when we don't win which is very rarely. It wasn't us Kiwi's who started this arguement, we were just saying how important the ITM Cup and the Currie Cup would be for this game before anything was said about World Cups. Ask whoever decided to go and find match figures and state biased World Cup winning stats before defending yourselves as a means to my reaction. The degrading part of which I was talking about is how you guys show the ITM Cup no acknowledgement whatsoever. I don't care what Wales has/hasn't won, I brought up Wales to hurt you passionate Welshmen because it hurts when us Kiwi's see the New Zealand game be talked down so often regardless of how consistent we are at winning overall. No one said the Tri Nations means more, where did you get that from. Sure it was stated that someone would rather have us win constantly between World Cups than win a World Cup and become losers afterwards and to be honest, I prefer that as well and no doubt so would you regardless of the Web Ellis Cup being the pinnacle of World Rugby. To hold bragging rights as the World Cup holders would be among one of the greatest achievements you could ever have. But to be the officially ranked No.1 Side in the World for majority of the time also holds a place up there among the best. You guys may focus all your efforts on the World Cup, where as New Zealand like to focus our efforts on everything. And now you want to bring up Sevens? Well like I said in my last post. We dominate the World Cup winners and in the Commonwealth Games that just finished. New Zealand set the record for winning a ***le the most consecutive times in competition. 4th Commonwealth Games ***le and also, they have never lost a Commonwealth Games Match. And also effortlessly defeated the mighty World Cup holders who finished close to nowhere. But all that matters to you guys is the World Cup right?... [/QUOTE]
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