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<blockquote data-quote="ranger" data-source="post: 349723" data-attributes="member: 40555"><p>Your points stand, but they aren't as compelling as they appear.. </p><p>-The Springbok sides that played those test matches were shocking as mentioned. To say that they were the same side the All Blacks couldn't beat is stretching the truth quite a bit as they were player for player a different team</p><p>-The All Black side that played Munster was far from a 2/3rd side. They featured a whole host of one game All Blacks and debutants, it was captained by Piri Weepu who doesn't even captain his own super rugby team. </p><p>-There is a reason the Waratah and Western Force tours were called "development tours" the Force XV was captained by an 18 year old and their first five was 17.. </p><p></p><p>Obviously the NH club sides are strong teams, but they aren't way up in the clouds looking down and laughing on the lowly ITM cup level. Some of those sides would give their NH counterparts a good game</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ranger, post: 349723, member: 40555"] Your points stand, but they aren't as compelling as they appear.. -The Springbok sides that played those test matches were shocking as mentioned. To say that they were the same side the All Blacks couldn't beat is stretching the truth quite a bit as they were player for player a different team -The All Black side that played Munster was far from a 2/3rd side. They featured a whole host of one game All Blacks and debutants, it was captained by Piri Weepu who doesn't even captain his own super rugby team. -There is a reason the Waratah and Western Force tours were called "development tours" the Force XV was captained by an 18 year old and their first five was 17.. Obviously the NH club sides are strong teams, but they aren't way up in the clouds looking down and laughing on the lowly ITM cup level. Some of those sides would give their NH counterparts a good game [/QUOTE]
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