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<blockquote data-quote="ranger" data-source="post: 350153" data-attributes="member: 40555"><p>The assumptions i made were only based on the nifty diagram where Super Rugby should be more important than the ITM cup because its supposed to be a higher level. Thats bullshit, we may look at things "backwards" but whos to say thats wrong. </p><p>And what narrow minded view in particular would these people be cross with? Also, posters like me going "this is where the game is wrong"? i was directly responding to someone who had just said "This is how you do things and its wrong".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Or, third possibility, i left the reply tab up while i visited the girlfriend and wrote a reply when i got back. </p><p> </p><p>To your first point, yes sir. They may be amateur clubs, but how much money the players get paid isn't the be all and end all. Also any Tom dick or harry can sign up, which is the beauty of the system, but not any Tom, dick or harry makes the first team. These aren't club sides like they are in the NH where a player might get spotted there and rarely play for them again, the player strength is pretty impressive. Paul ***o notched up over 150 games for his club side, Sinoti Sinoti and Karena Wihongi were signed directly from NZ Club rugby. Its comparable to the All Ireland league was my original point. I also have a couple mates and family friends playing in various competitions around the UK so i think i have a fair idea of how the leagues are structured. </p><p></p><p>Tell me something, what happens if the majority of the NZ rugby public get there wish and NZ walks out of the Super Rugby deal. We would go back to the ITM cup being the highest level of competition in the country.<em> All the players and all the squads would stay exactly the same</em>. Would you still be trying to tell me that the ITM cup is the same level as the All Ireland league?</p><p></p><p>I went overboard with the club thing because i didn't want to be accused of giving my opinion without reason behind it. </p><p></p><p>As for the difference being non existent and down to the weather of all things, have you ever been to Dunedin? There is a reason they named the place after Edinburgh. The All Blacks also seem to score their fair share of points when they play in the NH aswell.</p><p></p><p>Look this is ridiculous. The moral of the story is Super Rugby isn't that well liked in New Zealand. If it is possible/financially viable it would be great if the countries most popular competition could be included in the rugby game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ranger, post: 350153, member: 40555"] The assumptions i made were only based on the nifty diagram where Super Rugby should be more important than the ITM cup because its supposed to be a higher level. Thats bullshit, we may look at things "backwards" but whos to say thats wrong. And what narrow minded view in particular would these people be cross with? Also, posters like me going "this is where the game is wrong"? i was directly responding to someone who had just said "This is how you do things and its wrong". Or, third possibility, i left the reply tab up while i visited the girlfriend and wrote a reply when i got back. To your first point, yes sir. They may be amateur clubs, but how much money the players get paid isn't the be all and end all. Also any Tom dick or harry can sign up, which is the beauty of the system, but not any Tom, dick or harry makes the first team. These aren't club sides like they are in the NH where a player might get spotted there and rarely play for them again, the player strength is pretty impressive. Paul ***o notched up over 150 games for his club side, Sinoti Sinoti and Karena Wihongi were signed directly from NZ Club rugby. Its comparable to the All Ireland league was my original point. I also have a couple mates and family friends playing in various competitions around the UK so i think i have a fair idea of how the leagues are structured. Tell me something, what happens if the majority of the NZ rugby public get there wish and NZ walks out of the Super Rugby deal. We would go back to the ITM cup being the highest level of competition in the country.[I] All the players and all the squads would stay exactly the same[/I]. Would you still be trying to tell me that the ITM cup is the same level as the All Ireland league? I went overboard with the club thing because i didn't want to be accused of giving my opinion without reason behind it. As for the difference being non existent and down to the weather of all things, have you ever been to Dunedin? There is a reason they named the place after Edinburgh. The All Blacks also seem to score their fair share of points when they play in the NH aswell. Look this is ridiculous. The moral of the story is Super Rugby isn't that well liked in New Zealand. If it is possible/financially viable it would be great if the countries most popular competition could be included in the rugby game. [/QUOTE]
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