The Movie Thread

[Rich Taff]

Finally saw Endgame.

Thought it was awful. First 20 mins were ok, but then it it just kept going downhill.

Like the iphone of movies, where it's hyped up beyond belief, but in actuality is pretty sh*t.

 

[Kiwiwomble]

Finally saw Endgame.

Thought it was awful. First 20 mins were ok, but then it it just kept going downhill.

Like the iphone of movies, where it's hyped up beyond belief, but in actuality is pretty sh*t.

blocked

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Rewatching The Godfather. Still one of my all time favourite films. Can't believe in 3 years time it'll be 50 years since it was made. Everything from the acting, storyline, the haunting score and the ending. Just a perfect mix. And has ages like a fine wine.

 

[ncurd]

It's great I was watching a bit the other day and Part II I think is even better. It's still the ultimate portrayal of a good man going evil and how each step he takes seams justified at the time until you realise quite how far he's gone.

Tis why Breaking Bad is overrated

 

[Bada-Bing!]

It's great I was watching a bit the other day and Part II I think is even better. It's still the ultimate portrayal of a good man going evil and how each step he takes seams justified at the time until you realise quite how far he's gone.

Tis why Breaking Bad is overrated

All 3 masterpieces in their own way. Loved the Godfather book as well. Wished they'd do another Godfather film covering the Olive Oil war between Vito and Maranzano and Vito's ultimate rise to power. Could also show a young Luca Brasí and how Vito won his absolute loyalty.

Don't know who could play a young Vito Corleone. Any up and coming young De Niros out there?

As an aside I didn't realise the actor who played the Young Clemenza in GF2 (also was in City Slickers, When Harry Met Sally and Donnie Brasco ) died over a decade ago.

 

[Every Time Ref]

The book was noooooot what I was expecting having seen the films. Had no idea it was so pulpy! Enjoyed it though.

I absolutely love The Godfather, such a cliche to say I and II are some of the best movies ever made and III is gash, but that is the truth.

(Still not the best mafia story ever made though ... I thought it was until I saw The Sopranos)

"Leave the gun. Take the canollis"

 

[Bada-Bing!]

3 had a lot to live up to and the gap left between making it and 3 was too long. Coppola should have made it 2 years after the second. Whereas the first 2 are 10/10 for me there's a big drop off when it came to 3. But for me it's still a 7/10. I know Sofia Coppola gets a bad rep for her performance but the alternative was Wynona Ryder. Not sure she could have done much better.

Sopranos is also one of all time favourites but the show had seasons to flesh out the characters. I love the historical aspect of The Godfather films. Recreation of Ellis Island and Little Italy in the early 20th Century and of course you can "smell" the spaghetti and meatballs whilst Clemenza is making it in the first film.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Love the Godfather I and II but Goodfellas is the best mafia film, and just the best film in general, in my opinion. I think I've watched it at least once a year for about 8 years at this stage.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Love the Godfather I and II but Goodfellas is the best mafia film, and just the best film in general, in my opinion. I think I've watched it at least once a year for about 8 years at this stage.

Will have to watch Goodfellas again after GF2 which I am following on from GF1. For me it was Micro-Mafia story i.e. the street level, whereas the GF1 and GF2 could be described as the Macro level mafia level. Both different takes on the Mafia genre, but all great. Whereas the Godfather films (not number 3) won the Best picture oscars, Goodfellas lost out to Dances with Wolves . Better put that down to one of Oscar's more bizarre decisions or that they really didn't like Scorsese. I mean he eventually won for the Departed and that is inferior to Goodfellas and just a remake of Infernal Affairs, which was much better imo.

 

[Every Time Ref]

Love the Godfather I and II but Goodfellas is the best mafia film, and just the best film in general, in my opinion. I think I've watched it at least once a year for about 8 years at this stage.

Oof, maddon' ...

Great, great film, but up there with the first 2 Godfathers...? Not for me. It doesn't explore character and motivation and morality in the same way. Slick, excellently made, excellently written, but not as deep

(Translation for AlphaBro: Goodfellas is ROG; GF is Sexton)

Will have to watch Goodfellas again after GF2 which I am following on from GF1. For me it was Micro-Mafia story i.e. the street level, whereas the GF1 and GF2 could be described as the Macro level mafia level. Both different takes on the Mafia genre, but all great. Whereas the Godfather films (not number 3) won the Best picture oscars, Goodfellas lost out to Dances with Wolves . Better put that down to one of Oscar's more bizarre decisions or that they really didn't like Scorsese. I mean he eventually won for the Departed and that is inferior to Goodfellas and just a remake of Infernal Affairs, which was much better imo.

Well put.

My other favourite Mafia film is Donnie Brasco. "What's a fugazi?" "Your diamond is a ******* fugazi". Love it.

But again - NOTHING approaches Sopranos for me, anyone who disagrees I'll

 

[ncurd]

Soprano's is overrated or probably more true I got fed up. Tony Soprano has no growth in the slightest as a character throughout the show it's like watching The Godfather but it's about Sonny.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Oof, maddon' ...

Great, great film, but up there with the first 2 Godfathers...? Not for me. It doesn't explore character and motivation and morality in the same way. Slick, excellently made, excellently written, but not as deep

(Translation for AlphaBro: Goodfellas is ROG; GF is Sexton)



Well put.

My other favourite Mafia film is Donnie Brasco. "What's a fugazi?" "Your diamond is a ******* fugazi". Love it.

But again - NOTHING approaches Sopranos for me, anyone who disagrees I'll make him an offer he can't refuse

FIFY.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Soprano's is overrated or probably more true I got fed up. Tony Soprano has no growth in the slightest as a character throughout the show it's like watching The Godfather but it's about Sonny.

I think that was the point Tony is given numerous opportunities to reform/change but chooses to Keep returning to his bad old self. Ending was great though and the cues leading up to it was so original.

 

[bushytop]

Funny enough I've recently got one of my 'younger' mates (27) to try Goodfellas... it took quite a bit of persuasion but he loved it and is now far more open to my suggestions regarding gangster movies (the only 'gangster' movie he had seen previously was Gangster Squad... which he loves ).

The recent posts here are basically a run down of what I have suggested he watch next... Godfather trilogy (not a fan of 3 myself but you may as well while you're dabbling), Donnie Brasco, The Sopranos and I've also told him to watch Casino as he loved Goodfellas so much.

 

[Every Time Ref]

Soprano's is overrated or probably more true I got fed up. Tony Soprano has no growth in the slightest as a character throughout the show it's like watching The Godfather but it's about Sonny.

Oooooohhhhhh! You're lucky you're Bath my friend or you and me would have a problem.

I've never really thought about it, can see why you'd think that but I think you're simplifying, Tony does change, just not in a positive way. He just goes further and further from the possibility of his moral redemption, gets more closed off to his "friends" and family, corrupts everyone around him. Like The_Blindside says, his refusal to take the opportunities to be a Hollywood cliché "bad guy sees the error of his ways; finds redemption" story is what made the show unique. And is much truer to life, especially when discussing the mafia, an inward-focussed group populated by psychopaths. These people don't allow themselves and each other to change, and real-life gangsters (and people) don't have an arc like a story ("You know who had an arc? Noah!")

It's also not only about him, it's about his impact on others especially his family. They also change and develop in various ways, but none of them positive (except Melfi)

FIFY.

Haha, I was going for an intentional reference to the show with that one, I like yours very much too though!

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Lol @1min 54secs : "I'll meet you the book store."

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Possibly a controversial opinion but I think Casino is my favourite Mafia film - very closely followed by Goodfellas. Think it's just because I saw Casino first so it has the wow factor of being an introduction to the genre,

Big fan of Godfather but just not as much

 

[Bada-Bing!]

It's funny how much admiration there is for the Mafia and gang culture through TV and film. As Everytime Ref says above essentially they are Psychopaths, but tap into things qualities like Respect, Loyalty And family. They get the money, power, the women and don't play by the rules. Heck what is their not to secretly admire? But few of us would dream of getting involved because of the ultimate consequences involved.

 

[Every Time Ref]

It's funny how much admiration there is for the Mafia and gang culture through TV and film. As Everytime Ref says above essentially they are Psychopaths, but tap into things qualities like Respect, Loyalty And family. They get the money, power, the women and don't play by the rules. Heck what is their not to secretly admire? But few of us would dream of getting involved because of the ultimate consequences involved.

Yeah what good mafia stories do is play on that internal conflict between disgust at how they act and admiration for the romanticised view of "Men of Honour" - an idea which any cursory reading on Italian and Italian-American organised crime will show you has always been a myth! But the myth pervades and makes the idea fascinating to us ordinary citizens

 

[Rich Taff]

No mention of Micky Blue Eyes?