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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 847874" data-attributes="member: 20605"><p>No market? Pfft! And you think there is a market for rugby in Melbourne or Perth. I have a sister-in-law who lives in Melbourne. She tells me that the Rebels are all but invisible there. If you're lucky, you will find half a column-inch buried at the bottom of page 53 of The Age (the main Melbourne Newspaper).... IF they win.</p><p></p><p>FYI, here is The Age Sport menu choices</p><p></p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://ultimate-footy.theage.com.au" target="_blank">Ultimate Footy</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket" target="_blank">Cricket</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer" target="_blank">Soccer </a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing" target="_blank">Racing</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/netball" target="_blank">Netball</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-league" target="_blank">NRL</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-union" target="_blank">Union</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/motorsport" target="_blank">Motorsport</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games/gold-coast-2018" target="_blank">Gold Coast 2018</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/tennis" target="_blank">Tennis</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/basketball" target="_blank">Basketball</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycling" target="_blank">Cycling</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/golf" target="_blank">Golf</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/us-sports" target="_blank">US Sports</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/athletics" target="_blank">Athletics</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/boxing" target="_blank">Boxing</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/swimming" target="_blank">Swimming</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/sailing" target="_blank">Sailing</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/live-scores" target="_blank">Scores</a></li> </ul><p></p><p>Do you see Rugby Union on that list? Not on your Nellie!</p><p></p><p>Have a look at the crowds attending Sunwolves games in Japan.... bigger crowds than any Aussie home matches so far this season. 22,000 for the match v the Bulls this weekend, and regularly crowds of 18,000 to 20,000 this season. This is more than we get to most matches in New Zealand!</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, in Australia, the man and his dog sometimes has the company of a boy who accidentally walked into the stadium on his paper round.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, its the number of weak teams that is damaging the credibility of the competition. Both Australia and South Africa have their talent spread too thin.</p><p></p><p>On current form, with a merit basde system using the top six teams, the playeon would involve</p><p></p><p>Stormers</p><p>Crusaders</p><p>Hurricanes</p><p>Chiefs</p><p>Lions</p><p>Sharks</p><p></p><p>NO Aussle teams</p><p></p><p>SARU and the ARU will never buy into a system that doesn't guarantee them home payoff games. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Utter rubbish. Did expending the competition discourage them from going... of course it didn't.</p><p></p><p>When the Melbourne Rebels first joined SR, there weren't enough players of a suitable standard in Australia, so the ARU had to give them dispensation to use more than the maximum allowable three foreign players in their squad. They imported players from Europe to make up the numbers... Danny Cipriani, Max Lahif, Michael Lipman (England), Jamie Hagan, Tom Sexton (Ireland), Gareth Delve )Wales) as well as Tom Chamberlain, Tamati Ellison, Scott Fuglistaller, Dan Hawkins, Hoani MacDonald, Kevin O'Neill, Jono Owen, Ged Robinson, Greg Somerville, Adam Thomson, and Jason Woodward (New Zealand).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And why would they want to come back when they are being paid 3 to 4 times what we can pay them?</p><p></p><p>As for South African players, you clearly have not heard of "transformation" and "race quotas". I suggest you talk to a few of the South African posters on this site.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 847874, member: 20605"] No market? Pfft! And you think there is a market for rugby in Melbourne or Perth. I have a sister-in-law who lives in Melbourne. She tells me that the Rebels are all but invisible there. If you're lucky, you will find half a column-inch buried at the bottom of page 53 of The Age (the main Melbourne Newspaper).... IF they win. FYI, here is The Age Sport menu choices [LIST] [*] [URL="http://ultimate-footy.theage.com.au"]Ultimate Footy[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket"]Cricket[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer"]Soccer [/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing"]Racing[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/netball"]Netball[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-league"]NRL[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-union"]Union[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/motorsport"]Motorsport[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games/gold-coast-2018"]Gold Coast 2018[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/tennis"]Tennis[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/basketball"]Basketball[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycling"]Cycling[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/golf"]Golf[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/us-sports"]US Sports[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/athletics"]Athletics[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/boxing"]Boxing[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/swimming"]Swimming[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/sailing"]Sailing[/URL] [*] [URL="http://www.theage.com.au/sport/live-scores"]Scores[/URL] [/LIST] Do you see Rugby Union on that list? Not on your Nellie! Have a look at the crowds attending Sunwolves games in Japan.... bigger crowds than any Aussie home matches so far this season. 22,000 for the match v the Bulls this weekend, and regularly crowds of 18,000 to 20,000 this season. This is more than we get to most matches in New Zealand! Meanwhile, in Australia, the man and his dog sometimes has the company of a boy who accidentally walked into the stadium on his paper round. No, its the number of weak teams that is damaging the credibility of the competition. Both Australia and South Africa have their talent spread too thin. On current form, with a merit basde system using the top six teams, the playeon would involve Stormers Crusaders Hurricanes Chiefs Lions Sharks NO Aussle teams SARU and the ARU will never buy into a system that doesn't guarantee them home payoff games. Utter rubbish. Did expending the competition discourage them from going... of course it didn't. When the Melbourne Rebels first joined SR, there weren't enough players of a suitable standard in Australia, so the ARU had to give them dispensation to use more than the maximum allowable three foreign players in their squad. They imported players from Europe to make up the numbers... Danny Cipriani, Max Lahif, Michael Lipman (England), Jamie Hagan, Tom Sexton (Ireland), Gareth Delve )Wales) as well as Tom Chamberlain, Tamati Ellison, Scott Fuglistaller, Dan Hawkins, Hoani MacDonald, Kevin O'Neill, Jono Owen, Ged Robinson, Greg Somerville, Adam Thomson, and Jason Woodward (New Zealand). And why would they want to come back when they are being paid 3 to 4 times what we can pay them? As for South African players, you clearly have not heard of "transformation" and "race quotas". I suggest you talk to a few of the South African posters on this site. [/QUOTE]
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