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What is wrong with French Rugby?
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<blockquote data-quote="barthelemy" data-source="post: 934941" data-attributes="member: 56370"><p>You have it, the differences between the RFU and the FFR are :</p><p></p><p>1) A championship with 12 teams instead of 14 - it is 1 month without championship for the players. Also a relegation system much less pressurising with only 1 team in England being relegated each season.</p><p></p><p>2) A stadium, twickenahm own by the RFU - something like 60 millions pounds more per year on the budget - here you are for your bones to the clubs i.e the union can at least give some substantial money to the clubs</p><p></p><p>3) Not the same history of fighting and a more english-pragmatic approach</p><p></p><p>And still, with all this, you said it, English players are complaining about the pressure they have on them to perform all along the year. Their comme ci comme ca results on last 6th nations (and the defeat vs wales this year) shows that they are also reaching their limit sometimes.</p><p></p><p>In France, we are over the limit, we cannot even present the same team for more than 6 months in a row (1 week some would say).</p><p></p><p>The numbers of matches on a year is not especially the issue here, French players are doing regularly 35 to 40 matches a year. The issue is to do that number of matches over 3-4 years every year, it is killing the body. It is really interesting to compare the number of matches over a period of 5 years per players and nations, it is really telling on the root cause of the issue.</p><p></p><p>I cannot comprehend that we can blame the union in France, they cannot do anything (I'm exagerating obviously, they are not the best, they can do certainly some mroe things about the amateur level but when it comes to the French profesionnal players, it is very difficult)..or if they do (the union wanted to build its own stadium at one point to make it like twickenham but we have heard laugh from everybody in france about that idea)..or the player contracts idea that could bring some more sponsors maybe..no again...</p><p></p><p>The clubs can do something, can help, can really follow through their engagement ot protect the players..but they are doing it on hte backfoot, they do not really care at the end of the day as long as the money flows in. Teh only way I see is for people to stop to watch the top14, stop to go to the stadium, that the revenues go down for the TOP14 to wake up. The french team is a window of this sport in France and I cannot understand that the clubs are not seeing what they are inflicting to themselves on the long run. I beleive that the number of players is reducing in france overall, less and less licensed people, not really surprising.</p><p></p><p>Again, there is a bit of hope with some slow progress about players convention where every 2-3 years, the union can extract some samll things from the clubs, but god , it is horribly slow ..and it is so much wasted time. This is really sad for a french supporter, we all know what are the solutions (apart some few deluded people who still think that the union is the only to be blamed)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barthelemy, post: 934941, member: 56370"] You have it, the differences between the RFU and the FFR are : 1) A championship with 12 teams instead of 14 - it is 1 month without championship for the players. Also a relegation system much less pressurising with only 1 team in England being relegated each season. 2) A stadium, twickenahm own by the RFU - something like 60 millions pounds more per year on the budget - here you are for your bones to the clubs i.e the union can at least give some substantial money to the clubs 3) Not the same history of fighting and a more english-pragmatic approach And still, with all this, you said it, English players are complaining about the pressure they have on them to perform all along the year. Their comme ci comme ca results on last 6th nations (and the defeat vs wales this year) shows that they are also reaching their limit sometimes. In France, we are over the limit, we cannot even present the same team for more than 6 months in a row (1 week some would say). The numbers of matches on a year is not especially the issue here, French players are doing regularly 35 to 40 matches a year. The issue is to do that number of matches over 3-4 years every year, it is killing the body. It is really interesting to compare the number of matches over a period of 5 years per players and nations, it is really telling on the root cause of the issue. I cannot comprehend that we can blame the union in France, they cannot do anything (I'm exagerating obviously, they are not the best, they can do certainly some mroe things about the amateur level but when it comes to the French profesionnal players, it is very difficult)..or if they do (the union wanted to build its own stadium at one point to make it like twickenham but we have heard laugh from everybody in france about that idea)..or the player contracts idea that could bring some more sponsors maybe..no again... The clubs can do something, can help, can really follow through their engagement ot protect the players..but they are doing it on hte backfoot, they do not really care at the end of the day as long as the money flows in. Teh only way I see is for people to stop to watch the top14, stop to go to the stadium, that the revenues go down for the TOP14 to wake up. The french team is a window of this sport in France and I cannot understand that the clubs are not seeing what they are inflicting to themselves on the long run. I beleive that the number of players is reducing in france overall, less and less licensed people, not really surprising. Again, there is a bit of hope with some slow progress about players convention where every 2-3 years, the union can extract some samll things from the clubs, but god , it is horribly slow ..and it is so much wasted time. This is really sad for a french supporter, we all know what are the solutions (apart some few deluded people who still think that the union is the only to be blamed) [/QUOTE]
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