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<blockquote data-quote="OverGore" data-source="post: 762610" data-attributes="member: 73160"><p>yes for Toulon, but last year champs , Stade Francais had a majority of french youngsters coming out of SF rugby school. </p><p>For France, havin foreigners isnt a problem imo. Most of youngsters get an example of what they need to do, and what they need to learn from those SH foreigners. Plisson has a lot lot to learn from Morné Steyn for example.</p><p>Its all a matter of equilibrium between old and young players.</p><p></p><p>The main reason we hire foreigners is that top14 is an open league, with each year 2 going out, and 2 coming in. Wich, in a sport like rugby is an heresy on a financial level, as well on a physical level for players. </p><p>The pressure to not go down , and thus lose a 15 million euro investment you ll have to reduce then by half once in Prod2, eats the quality of formation and pushes owners to look for instant results, using experienced players instead of young guys.</p><p>Professional sport doesnt go along the french tradition of rugby.</p><p> Im not sayin that small 5000-10 000 people cities musnt have a top14 team, but on a economical point of view, those teams are destined to disapear. </p><p>You need an economical basis of fans in the area to make money , stadium benefits are way to short to be a guaranty for futur.</p><p></p><p>So ofc, switching from Club system to province system for the too small to live by themselves club, like biarritz or bayonne, would be the best idea.</p><p>But in France, amateur club system is the way, and sadly, it is due to fans, not even owners.</p><p></p><p>My dream is a closed league of 16 teams, so everybody is happy, divided in 2 pools of 8 teams.</p><p>Playoff would eventually have sense, and ofc u cross 1st of each pool with the 4th of the other etc.</p><p>No relegation ofc, less matches, more quality and youngsters, more time for EDF. And finally a real playoff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OverGore, post: 762610, member: 73160"] yes for Toulon, but last year champs , Stade Francais had a majority of french youngsters coming out of SF rugby school. For France, havin foreigners isnt a problem imo. Most of youngsters get an example of what they need to do, and what they need to learn from those SH foreigners. Plisson has a lot lot to learn from Morné Steyn for example. Its all a matter of equilibrium between old and young players. The main reason we hire foreigners is that top14 is an open league, with each year 2 going out, and 2 coming in. Wich, in a sport like rugby is an heresy on a financial level, as well on a physical level for players. The pressure to not go down , and thus lose a 15 million euro investment you ll have to reduce then by half once in Prod2, eats the quality of formation and pushes owners to look for instant results, using experienced players instead of young guys. Professional sport doesnt go along the french tradition of rugby. Im not sayin that small 5000-10 000 people cities musnt have a top14 team, but on a economical point of view, those teams are destined to disapear. You need an economical basis of fans in the area to make money , stadium benefits are way to short to be a guaranty for futur. So ofc, switching from Club system to province system for the too small to live by themselves club, like biarritz or bayonne, would be the best idea. But in France, amateur club system is the way, and sadly, it is due to fans, not even owners. My dream is a closed league of 16 teams, so everybody is happy, divided in 2 pools of 8 teams. Playoff would eventually have sense, and ofc u cross 1st of each pool with the 4th of the other etc. No relegation ofc, less matches, more quality and youngsters, more time for EDF. And finally a real playoff. [/QUOTE]
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