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What teams do you predict will get promoted in the next few years?
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<blockquote data-quote="RedruthRFC" data-source="post: 1032750" data-attributes="member: 58362"><p>I don't think it's fair to group Rotherham in with Welsh. Their gradual slide down the pyramid was a result of them not spending money they didn't have chasing unrealistic goals. All their story shows to me is the difficulty of demotion from The Championship and the resulting transition from mostly-pro to semi-pro. Donny coped because a consortium dug deep to retain their squad and crossed their fingers they bounced right back, Richmond can cope because they are able to open doors for players. Roth's sun reaching days were 15 years or more previous and I think they remained at level two afterwards.</p><p></p><p>Leeds weren't trying to reach the sun, but were stupid in not cutting budgets when the Carnegie money dried up, but were just trying to maintain their standing, not reaching for the sun as such. IIRC what they and LW got really wrong was to chose to believe assurances from a potential benefactor rather than getting their legals and due diligence in place (my recollection is hazy though).</p><p></p><p>For fear of reductio ad absurdum, ringfencing of the basis of finance would make for a boring Premiership, with Exeter playing Leicester every week. I get what you're saying and agree to some extent, but it's tough to make a case for ringfencing on a financial basis when most on the inside of the ringfence are also a financial basket case. In an ideal world, some sort of financial fair play would be great, but I don't see how you could implement it wothout turning some big teams into village sides.</p><p></p><p>Revenue sharing is already in place for PRL A share holders. I'm not sure what you're suggesting on that front. If you mean them sharing revenues with The Championship, I would be in favour, but I can't see why PRL would ever go for it. I sound like a broken record on this, but the RFU's malaise back in 1995 is what created the crappy situation we have now where the PRL hold all the cards. They benefit massively from The Championship and further down the pyramid already, so there would need to be a case that they would benefit more if they invested in it to make it compelling for them to do so. On the flip side, there's nothing that the Championship have that they could threaten to withdraw from the PLR clubs is they don't invest in them.</p><p></p><p>It's interesting that you mention a competitive league. I've already heard complaints of relegation leading to poor games. Between the salary cap and distributing RFU / TV money equally (AFAIK) I don't see what else can be done to make a ringfenced league more competitive. Maybe more thought about academy boundaries?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RedruthRFC, post: 1032750, member: 58362"] I don't think it's fair to group Rotherham in with Welsh. Their gradual slide down the pyramid was a result of them not spending money they didn't have chasing unrealistic goals. All their story shows to me is the difficulty of demotion from The Championship and the resulting transition from mostly-pro to semi-pro. Donny coped because a consortium dug deep to retain their squad and crossed their fingers they bounced right back, Richmond can cope because they are able to open doors for players. Roth's sun reaching days were 15 years or more previous and I think they remained at level two afterwards. Leeds weren't trying to reach the sun, but were stupid in not cutting budgets when the Carnegie money dried up, but were just trying to maintain their standing, not reaching for the sun as such. IIRC what they and LW got really wrong was to chose to believe assurances from a potential benefactor rather than getting their legals and due diligence in place (my recollection is hazy though). For fear of reductio ad absurdum, ringfencing of the basis of finance would make for a boring Premiership, with Exeter playing Leicester every week. I get what you're saying and agree to some extent, but it's tough to make a case for ringfencing on a financial basis when most on the inside of the ringfence are also a financial basket case. In an ideal world, some sort of financial fair play would be great, but I don't see how you could implement it wothout turning some big teams into village sides. Revenue sharing is already in place for PRL A share holders. I'm not sure what you're suggesting on that front. If you mean them sharing revenues with The Championship, I would be in favour, but I can't see why PRL would ever go for it. I sound like a broken record on this, but the RFU's malaise back in 1995 is what created the crappy situation we have now where the PRL hold all the cards. They benefit massively from The Championship and further down the pyramid already, so there would need to be a case that they would benefit more if they invested in it to make it compelling for them to do so. On the flip side, there's nothing that the Championship have that they could threaten to withdraw from the PLR clubs is they don't invest in them. It's interesting that you mention a competitive league. I've already heard complaints of relegation leading to poor games. Between the salary cap and distributing RFU / TV money equally (AFAIK) I don't see what else can be done to make a ringfenced league more competitive. Maybe more thought about academy boundaries? [/QUOTE]
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