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Australia


1. Tom Robertson

2. Jordan Uelese

3. Allan Alaalatoa

4. Rory Arnold

5. Adam coleman

6. Micheal hooper (captain)

7. David pocock

8. Sean McMahon

9. Will guinea

10. Bendrad foley

11. Marika Koroibete

12. Kurtley Beale

13. Samu Kerevi

14. Reece Hodge

15 Isreal folau

Reserves

16. Stephen Moore

17. Tetera Faulkner

18. Jermaine Ainsley

19. Kane Douglas

20. Ben McCalman

21. Nick phipps

22. James oconnor

23. Izaia Perese





England

  • 1Mako Vunipola

  • 2Dylan Hartley (captian)

  • 3Dan Cole

  • 4Maro Itoje

  • 5 Courtney Lawes

  • 6Chris Robshaw

  • 7Sam Underhill

  • 8 BIll Vunipola

  • 9 Ben youngs

  • 10 Geogre Ford

  • 11 Eillot Daily

  • 12 Owen Farell

  • 13 Jonathan Joseph

  • 14 Anthony Watson

  • 15 Mike Brown

  • Subs

  • 16Jamie George

  • 17 Ellis Genge

  • 18Harry Williams

  • 19 Braid Shields

  • 20 Tom curry

  • 21Danny Care

  • 22Henry Slade

  • 23 Jack Nowell



Ireland

  • 1 Cian Healy

  • 2 Rory Best (Captain)

  • 3 Tadhg Furlong

  • 4 Iain Henderson

  • 5 Devin Toner

  • 6 Peter O'Mahony

  • 7 Sean O'Brien

  • 8 CJ Stander
  • 9 Conor Murray

  • 10 Johnny Sexton

  • 11 Keith Earls

  • 12 Bundee Aki

  • 13 Robbie Henshaw

  • 14 Andrew Conway

  • 15 Joey Carbery
Subs

  • 16 Rob Herring

  • 17 Dave Kilcoyne

  • 18 John Ryan

  • 19 James Ryan

  • 20 Rhys Ruddock

  • 21 Kieran Marmion

  • 22 Joey Carbery

  • 23 Gary Ringrose



Wales


1 Rob Evans

02 Eillot dee

03 Tomas Francis

04 Jake Ball

05 Alun-Wyn Jones

06 Thomas young /Sam Warburton (captain)

07 James davids

08 Toby Faletau

09 Rhys Webb

10 Dan Biggar

11 George North

12 Kirean Willams

13 Jon Davies

14 Keelan Giles

15 Liam Williams


subs

16 Sasmon lee

17 Ken owns

18 Leon brown

19 Seb davids

20 Justin Tipuric

21 Gareth Davies

22 Owen Willams

23 Halllen amos


Scotland

  • 1 Wp niel

  • 2Stuart McInally

  • 3Zander Fagerson

  • 4Ben Toolis

  • 5Johnny Gray

  • 6John Barclay (captian)

  • 7Hamish Watson

  • 8Cornell Du Preez

  • 9 Ail Price
  • 10 Finn Russell

  • 11Lee Jones

  • 12Alex Dunbar

  • 13Huw Jones

  • 14Tommy Seymour

  • 15Stuart Hogg

  • Subs

  • 16George Turner

  • 17Jamie Bhattie

  • 18Simon Berghan

  • 19Grant Gilchrist

  • 20Luke Hamilton

  • 21Henry Pyrgos

  • 22Peter Horne '

  • 23 Sean matland
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France


  • 1Jefferson Poirot

  • 2Guihem Guirado (captian)

  • 3Rabah Slimani

  • 4Sebastien Vahaamhina

  • 5 Paul Gabrillagues

  • 6 Sekou Macalou

  • 7 Kevin Gourdon

  • 8 Louis Picamoles

  • 9 Antoine Dupont

  • 10 Anthony Belleau

  • 11 Gabriel Lacroix

  • 12 Damian Penaud

  • 13 Mathieu Bastareaud

  • 14 Teddy Thomas

  • 15 Nans Ducuing
Subs

  • 16Clement Maynadier

  • 17Raphael Chaume

  • 18Daniel Kotze

  • 19Paul Jedrasiak

  • 20Anthony Jelonch

  • 21Baptiste Serin'

  • 22Francois Trinh-Duc

  • 23 Geoffrey Doumayrou


New Zealand

  • 1 Kane Hames

  • 2Dane Coles

  • 3 Nepo Laulala

  • 4 Luke Romano

  • 5 Sam Whitelock

  • 6 Vaea Fifita

  • 7 Adrie Savea

  • 8 Kieran Read (captain)

  • 9 Aragon smith

  • 10 Beaduan barrett

  • 11 Rieko Ioane

  • 12 Sonny bill willams

  • 13 Jack Goodhue

  • 14 Jodire barrett

  • 15 Ben smith
Subs

  • 16Codie Taylor

  • 17Wyatt Crockett

  • 18Ofa Tu'ungafasi

  • 19Scott Barrett

  • 20Matt Todd

  • 21TJ Perenara

  • 22Limo Sopoaga

  • 23Anton Liernert-Brown

Argentiana

  • 1Santiago Garcia Botta

  • 2Agustin Creevy

  • 3Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro

  • 4Matias Alemanno

  • 5Tomas Lavanini

  • 6Pablo Matera (captian)

  • 7Marcos Kremer

  • 8Juan Manuel Leguizamon

  • 9Martin Landajo

  • 10Nicolas Sanchez

  • 11 Emiliano Boffelli

  • 12Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias

  • 13Matias Orlando

  • 14 Sebastian Cancelliere

  • 15Joaquin Tuculet

  • 16Julian Montoya

  • 17Lucas Noguera Paz

  • 18Enrique Pieretto

  • 19Guido Petti

  • 20Benjamin Macome

  • 21Gonzalo Bertranou

  • 22Juan Martin Hernandez

  • 23Matias Moroni
South Africa

  • 1Tendai Mtawarira

  • 2Malcolm Marx

  • 3Wilco Louw

  • 4Eben Etzebeth

  • 5 Ruan Ackermann

  • 6 Warren Whiteley (captain)

  • 7Siya Kolisi

  • 8Duane Vermeulen

  • 9Ross Cronje

  • 10Handre Pollard

  • 11 Ruan combrinck

  • 12 Fraincs Styen

  • 13 Paul Jordaan

  • 14 Cheslin Kolbe

  • 15 Warrick Gelant

  • Subs

  • 16Bongi Mbonambi

  • 17Steven Kitshoff

  • 18Trevor Nyakane

  • 19Franco Mostert

  • 20 kwagga smith

  • 21 Faf de Klerk

  • 22 Pat lamnie

  • 23 Rohan Janse van Rensburg

Fiji

  • 1Campese Ma'afu

  • 2Talemaitoga Tuapati

  • 3Manasa Saulo

  • 4Api Ratuniyarawa

  • 5Leone Nakarawa

  • 6Dominiko Waqaniburotu

  • 7Akapusi Qera

  • 8Nemani Nagusa

  • 9Henry Seniloli

  • 10 Ben Volavola

  • 11 Nemani Nadolo (captain)

  • 12Lepani Botia Veivuke

  • 13Jaie Vatubua

  • 14 Josua Tuisova

  • 15 Kini Murimurivalu

  • Subs

  • 16Sunia Koto

  • 17Peni Ravai Kovekalou

  • 18Kalivati Tawake

  • 19Sikeli Nabou

  • 20Semi Kunatani

  • 21Nikola Matawalu

  • 22Asaeli Tikoirotuma

  • 23Niki Goneva

i Will do some other teams later :)
 
Some dangerous looking combos in there!

Imagine the dynamic duo of Aragon smith and Limo Sopoaga lining up together! Lethal!

But they'd have a tough time marking Will guinea and Bendrad foley..... always gotta be wary of Bendrad.
 
Some dangerous looking combos in there!

Imagine the dynamic duo of Aragon smith and Limo Sopoaga lining up together! Lethal!

But they'd have a tough time marking Will guinea and Bendrad foley..... always gotta be wary of Bendrad.
I almost thought you were making a Lord of the Rings reference.
 
  • 10 Beaduan barrett

  • 11 Rieko Ioane

  • 12 Sonny bill willams

  • 13 Jack Goodhue

  • 14 Jodire barrett

  • 15 Ben smith

i would think your more likely to see Naholo at 14. and Jordie at 15.
 
In all seriousness though, the only things that I'd guess would be different for Ireland are
  • Ringrose is probably ahead of Aki.
  • Stockdale is surely the favourite for the 11 jersey at this point (with Earls at 14 and either Conway or Kearney at 15.) Carbery is the most talented of them all but will probably be kept as the necessary replacement for Sexton.
  • The front row subs will probably be different. Jack McGrath is in poor form but hopefully will recover from his Lions hangover, Hooker is anyone's guess at this point and tighthead all comes down whether or not Porter can master the transition from loosehead.
Anyway, great job!
 
Yea if I was to actually make a serious prediction for the 2019 ABs 23, it'd be:
1. Moody
2. Coles
3. Franks
4. Retallick
5. Whitelock
6. Squire
7. Cane
8. Read
9. Smith
10. Barrett
11. Ioane
12. SBW
13. ALB
14. NMS
15. Smith

16. Taylor
17. Moli
18. Tu'ungafasi
19. Tuipolotu
20. Savea
21. Perenara
22. DMac
23. Laumape

22 and 23 are the hardest to predict imo. Sops, Mounga, Dmac, maybe even Perofeta all in contention for the reserve playmaker. Jordie, ALB (if Crotty is still starting), Laumape, Tamanivalu and a bunch of others could all be right in the mix for no.23. A lot depends on how DMac goes at 10 for the Chiefs. If he doesn't convert effectively then, imo, it'll be Mounga on the bench. I expect him to overtake Sopoaga and even seriously challenge Barrett by the 2019 WC. Also if Dmac is on the bench then no.23 will definitely be a midfielder. If he isn't, it could be an outside back, which would put even more people in contention...
 
Yea if I was to actually make a serious prediction for the 2019 ABs 23, it'd be:
1. Moody
2. Coles
3. Franks
4. Retallick
5. Whitelock
6. Squire
7. Cane
8. Read
9. Smith
10. Barrett
11. Ioane
12. SBW
13. ALB
14. NMS
15. Smith

16. Taylor
17. Moli
18. Tu'ungafasi
19. Tuipolotu
20. Savea
21. Perenara
22. DMac
23. Laumape

22 and 23 are the hardest to predict imo. Sops, Mounga, Dmac, maybe even Perofeta all in contention for the reserve playmaker. Jordie, ALB (if Crotty is still starting), Laumape, Tamanivalu and a bunch of others could all be right in the mix for no.23. A lot depends on how DMac goes at 10 for the Chiefs. If he doesn't convert effectively then, imo, it'll be Mounga on the bench. I expect him to overtake Sopoaga and even seriously challenge Barrett by the 2019 WC. Also if Dmac is on the bench then no.23 will definitely be a midfielder. If he isn't, it could be an outside back, which would put even more people in contention...
I almost certainly don't know as much as you about the AB set up but I'd make a few changes to that. My only change to the starting team is that I expect that as long as he's injury free, Crotty will remain in that midfield, I don't think Hansen would persist with him as much as he has just to drop him for the WC, which also means moving ALB into the 23 shirt and Laumape out of the 23.

The substitute props are interesting now, especially at TH. Laulala's now gained a good amount of experience and I'd say is a far superior player to Tu'ungfasi but Tu'ungfasi's been in the set up for longer and Hansen has persisted with him at 18 so he may well be his preference coming off of the bench. With Laulala only a year older than Ofa, you can't really argue that Ofa's going to overtake him through development. I'd also have thought Hames will be selected over Moli simply because he's got more experience in the set up.

Finally, Barrett over Tuipolotu on the bench, mostly because I think Barrett's a far better player but also tactically because Barrett also provides more traditional 6 cover from the bench than resorting to playing Ardie there.
 
I almost certainly don't know as much as you about the AB set up but I'd make a few changes to that. My only change to the starting team is that I expect that as long as he's injury free, Crotty will remain in that midfield, I don't think Hansen would persist with him as much as he has just to drop him for the WC, which also means moving ALB into the 23 shirt and Laumape out of the 23.

The substitute props are interesting now, especially at TH. Laulala's now gained a good amount of experience and I'd say is a far superior player to Tu'ungfasi but Tu'ungfasi's been in the set up for longer and Hansen has persisted with him at 18 so he may well be his preference coming off of the bench. With Laulala only a year older than Ofa, you can't really argue that Ofa's going to overtake him through development. I'd also have thought Hames will be selected over Moli simply because he's got more experience in the set up.

Finally, Barrett over Tuipolotu on the bench, mostly because I think Barrett's a far better player but also tactically because Barrett also provides more traditional 6 cover from the bench than resorting to playing Ardie there.
All very fair points.
The exclusion of Crotty is just a bit of a prediction and probably a bit of personal preference - I'm a big fan of ALB and believe that within the next 2 years he will be a world class center who offers a bit more than Crotty.
I actually agree with you re. Laulala... I always rated him ahead of Tu'ungafasi, but it just seems that Shag is more invested in Ofa, especially as a bench player... he does play both sides and perhaps has a bit more impact value than Laulala, which is why I expect him to be there. Moli is a beast and will be an awesome bench player. Hames isn't really suited to the bench... he's a scrummager and not much else. It'll depend on how quickly Moli develops though and whether or not he can reign his skills as a loosehead. I have faith that that he will, but there's a good chance that he won't, so Hames is probably a safer bet.
I went with Tuipolotu because again I reckon he has more impact value. He really had his progress halted this year for a number of reasons but was our bench lock last year and has been one of Shag's projects for a while. I probably rate him higher than you do... he came back well for Auckland this year and the fact that he started ahead of Barrett this morning might be an indication that he's climbed his way back up the pecking order. Either way I expect him to be a better bench option than Barrett by 2019.

In hindsight, perhaps I haven't put enough value on experience...
 
Australia


1. Tom Robertson

2. Jordan Uelese

3. Allan Alaalatoa

4. Rory Arnold

5. Adam coleman

6. Micheal hooper (captain)

7. David pocock

8. Sean McMahon

9. Will guinea

10. Bendrad foley

11. Marika Koroibete

12. Kurtley Beale

13. Samu Kerevi

14. Reece Hodge

15 Isreal folau

Reserves

16. Stephen Moore

17. Tetera Faulkner

18. Jermaine Ainsley

19. Kane Douglas

20. Ben McCalman

21. Nick phipps

22. James oconnor

23. Izaia Perese





England

  • 1Mako Vunipola

  • 2Dylan Hartley (captian)

  • 3Dan Cole

  • 4Maro Itoje

  • 5 Courtney Lawes

  • 6Chris Robshaw
  • 7Sam Underhill

  • 8 BIll Vunipola

  • 9 Ben youngs

  • 10 Geogre Ford

  • 11 Eillot Daily

  • 12 Owen Farell

  • 13 Jonathan Joseph

  • 14 Anthony Watson

  • 15 Mike Brown

  • Subs

  • 16Jamie George

  • 17 Ellis Genge

  • 18Harry Williams

  • 19 Braid Shields

  • 20 Tom curry

  • 21Danny Care

  • 22Henry Slade

  • 23 Jack Nowell



Ireland

  • 1 Cian Healy

  • 2 Rory Best (Captain)

  • 3 Tadhg Furlong

  • 4 Iain Henderson

  • 5 Devin Toner

  • 6 Peter O'Mahony

  • 7 Sean O'Brien

  • 8 CJ Stander
  • 9 Conor Murray

  • 10 Johnny Sexton

  • 11 Keith Earls

  • 12 Bundee Aki

  • 13 Robbie Henshaw

  • 14 Andrew Conway

  • 15 Joey Carbery
Subs

  • 16 Rob Herring

  • 17 Dave Kilcoyne

  • 18 John Ryan

  • 19 James Ryan

  • 20 Rhys Ruddock

  • 21 Kieran Marmion

  • 22 Joey Carbery

  • 23 Gary Ringrose



Wales


1 Rob Evans

02 Eillot dee

03 Tomas Francis

04 Jake Ball

05 Alun-Wyn Jones

06 Thomas young /Sam Warburton (captain)

07 James davids

08 Toby Faletau

09 Rhys Webb

10 Dan Biggar

11 George North

12 Kirean Willams

13 Jon Davies

14 Keelan Giles

15 Liam Williams


subs

16 Sasmon lee

17 Ken owns

18 Leon brown

19 Seb davids

20 Justin Tipuric

21 Gareth Davies

22 Owen Willams

23 Halllen amos


Scotland

  • 1 Wp niel

  • 2Stuart McInally

  • 3Zander Fagerson

  • 4Ben Toolis

  • 5Johnny Gray

  • 6John Barclay (captian)

  • 7Hamish Watson

  • 8Cornell Du Preez

  • 9 Ail Price
  • 10 Finn Russell

  • 11Lee Jones

  • 12Alex Dunbar

  • 13Huw Jones

  • 14Tommy Seymour

  • 15Stuart Hogg

  • Subs

  • 16George Turner

  • 17Jamie Bhattie

  • 18Simon Berghan

  • 19Grant Gilchrist

  • 20Luke Hamilton

  • 21Henry Pyrgos

  • 22Peter Horne '

  • 23 Sean matland
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France


  • 1Jefferson Poirot

  • 2Guihem Guirado (captian)

  • 3Rabah Slimani

  • 4Sebastien Vahaamhina

  • 5 Paul Gabrillagues

  • 6 Sekou Macalou

  • 7 Kevin Gourdon

  • 8 Louis Picamoles

  • 9 Antoine Dupont

  • 10 Anthony Belleau

  • 11 Gabriel Lacroix

  • 12 Damian Penaud

  • 13 Mathieu Bastareaud

  • 14 Teddy Thomas

  • 15 Nans Ducuing
Subs

  • 16Clement Maynadier

  • 17Raphael Chaume

  • 18Daniel Kotze

  • 19Paul Jedrasiak

  • 20Anthony Jelonch

  • 21Baptiste Serin'

  • 22Francois Trinh-Duc

  • 23 Geoffrey Doumayrou


New Zealand

  • 1 Kane Hames

  • 2Dane Coles

  • 3 Nepo Laulala

  • 4 Luke Romano

  • 5 Sam Whitelock

  • 6 Vaea Fifita

  • 7 Adrie Savea

  • 8 Kieran Read (captain)

  • 9 Aragon smith

  • 10 Beaduan barrett

  • 11 Rieko Ioane

  • 12 Sonny bill willams

  • 13 Jack Goodhue

  • 14 Jodire barrett

  • 15 Ben smith
Subs

  • 16Codie Taylor

  • 17Wyatt Crockett

  • 18Ofa Tu'ungafasi

  • 19Scott Barrett

  • 20Matt Todd

  • 21TJ Perenara

  • 22Limo Sopoaga

  • 23Anton Liernert-Brown

Argentiana

  • 1Santiago Garcia Botta

  • 2Agustin Creevy

  • 3Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro

  • 4Matias Alemanno

  • 5Tomas Lavanini

  • 6Pablo Matera (captian)

  • 7Marcos Kremer

  • 8Juan Manuel Leguizamon

  • 9Martin Landajo

  • 10Nicolas Sanchez

  • 11 Emiliano Boffelli

  • 12Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias

  • 13Matias Orlando

  • 14 Sebastian Cancelliere

  • 15Joaquin Tuculet

  • 16Julian Montoya

  • 17Lucas Noguera Paz

  • 18Enrique Pieretto

  • 19Guido Petti

  • 20Benjamin Macome

  • 21Gonzalo Bertranou

  • 22Juan Martin Hernandez

  • 23Matias Moroni
South Africa

  • 1Tendai Mtawarira

  • 2Malcolm Marx

  • 3Wilco Louw

  • 4Eben Etzebeth

  • 5 Ruan Ackermann

  • 6 Warren Whiteley (captain)

  • 7Siya Kolisi

  • 8Duane Vermeulen

  • 9Ross Cronje

  • 10Handre Pollard

  • 11 Ruan combrinck

  • 12 Fraincs Styen

  • 13 Paul Jordaan

  • 14 Cheslin Kolbe

  • 15 Warrick Gelant

  • Subs

  • 16Bongi Mbonambi

  • 17Steven Kitshoff

  • 18Trevor Nyakane

  • 19Franco Mostert

  • 20 kwagga smith

  • 21 Faf de Klerk

  • 22 Pat lamnie

  • 23 Rohan Janse van Rensburg

Fiji

  • 1Campese Ma'afu

  • 2Talemaitoga Tuapati

  • 3Manasa Saulo

  • 4Api Ratuniyarawa

  • 5Leone Nakarawa

  • 6Dominiko Waqaniburotu

  • 7Akapusi Qera

  • 8Nemani Nagusa

  • 9Henry Seniloli

  • 10 Ben Volavola

  • 11 Nemani Nadolo (captain)

  • 12Lepani Botia Veivuke

  • 13Jaie Vatubua

  • 14 Josua Tuisova

  • 15 Kini Murimurivalu

  • Subs

  • 16Sunia Koto

  • 17Peni Ravai Kovekalou

  • 18Kalivati Tawake

  • 19Sikeli Nabou

  • 20Semi Kunatani

  • 21Nikola Matawalu

  • 22Asaeli Tikoirotuma

  • 23Niki Goneva

i Will do some other teams later :)

Few things im not 100% about with your england team but the main one is robshaw 6 and Underhill 7 both great in their own right but together it lacks go forward. I like the look of simmonds at 7 to balance it more, either robshaw or underhill though not both regardless of who else we choose.

Id like Sinkler to overtake cole

Your back 3, strong but as long as Watson is also classed as a FB aswell, he put in a good show standing in for brown. Daly watson nowell sounds good to me but brown not out of the squad. with shorter turn arounds on some of the pool games this coming WC, we need to beable to interchange and rest brown and watson IMO.
 

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