Discussion in 'International Test Matches' started by ruck987, Mar 6, 2018.
You’re expecting tight games?
Changing that from what I had a few weeks ago by bringing RK in after the announcement of his new contract. I could see Deegan coming in ahead of Conan after the latter not getting too much involvement behind Jordi Murphy who you'd have assumed he'd have been comfortably ahead of.
Carbery (Jackson if available, highly unlikely)
Kilcoyne, Ryan, Toner, Ruddock, Conan, R Byrne*, Aki, Conway
You’re expecting tight games?
And if Mako or Genge go down?
We really need a Wilson who can cover both sides adequately. I don’t think any of the current crop do which means you need 3 complete front rows.
No one takes 3 complete front rows to RWCs. If Mako or Genge goes down then just call up Marler who will have been in the penultimate squad selection and has plenty of experience internationally and in the set up, to slot right in.
OK, if you accept that, where would Marler be?
If one of them gets hurt in training 3 or 4 days before a match, you won’t want a replacement flying out from London to go straight into action.
I feel like we could see a 40 man squad go out... Just in case
On a fortunately timed holiday in Japan.
What about Farrell? I keep hearing people talk about him.
If you mean Chris Farrell, he's a very big 13 who's more skilled than people initially think when they see his size. He filled in well for Henshaw v Argentina in November and came into the tean after Henshaw got injured against Italy and won motm v Wales before getting injured and being ruled out for the season. Ringrose came back from injury and reminded everyone what the hype was about and will probably be the first choice 13 for the foreseeable future. If everyone is fit then I think he'd struggle to make the 31 because Henshaw and Larmour (and Earls but he really isn't very good there) can both play 13 which means we'd be better off taking Aki as a backup 12.
Cheers for the response, there's certainly plenty of talent to choose from in Ireland Atm.
Based on current availability...
01 Rob Evans
02 Ken Owens
03 Samson Lee
04 Jake Ball
06 Aaron Shingler
07 James Davies
08 Taulupe Faletau
09 Gareth Davies
10 Rhys Patchell
11 Steff Evans
12 Hadleigh Parkes
13 Jon Davies
14 George North
15 Liam Williams
16 Elliot Dee
17 Nicky Smith
18 Leon Brown
19 Seb Davies
20 Justin Tipuric
21 Tomos Williams
22 Gareth Anscombe
23 Halam Amos
24 Ryan Elias
25 Tomos Francis
26 Cory Hill
27 Sam Warburton
28 Ross Moriarty
29 Owen Williams
30 Owen Watkin
31 Leigh Halfpenny
Others: Wyn Jones, Dillon Lewis, Dacey, Bradley Davies, Adam Beard, Navidi, Ellis Jenkins, Olly Griffiths, Aled Davies, Dan Biggar, Scott Williams, Tyler Morgan, Josh Adams, Keelan Giles.
7. Curry, B
Mikheil Nariashvili (Montpellier - Top14 - France)
Vasil Kakovin (Racing92 - Top14 - France)
Zurab Zhvania (Stade Français - Top14 - France)
Levan Chilachava (Toulon - Top14 - France)
Davit Kubriashvili (Montpellier - Top14 - France)
Lekso Kaulashvili (La Rochelle - Top14 - France)
Shalva Mamukashvili (Locomotive Tbilisi - Didi10 - Georgia)
Jaba Bregvadze (Sunwolves - SuperRugby - Japan)
Giorgi Nemsadze (Ospreys - Pro14 - Wales)
Shalva Sutiashvili (Soyaux-Angouleme - ProD2 - France)
Konstantin Mikautadze (Montpellier - Top14 - France)
Viktor Kolelishvili (Clermont - Top14 - France)
Giorgi Tkhilaishvili (Batumi - Didi10 - Georgia)
Otar Giorgadze (Clermont - Top14 - France)
Mikheil Gachechiladze (Enisei-STM - RRPL - Russia)
Lasha Lomidze (London Irish - Premiership - England)
Beka Bitsadze (Narbonne - ProD2 - France)
Beka Gorgadze (Stade Montois - ProD2 - France)
Vasil Lobzhanidze (Brive - Top14 - France)
Gela Aprasidze (Montpellier - Top14 - France)
Lasha Khmaladze (Batumi - Didi10 - France)
Tedo Abzhandadze (Terenure College - Ulster Bank League - Ireland)
Merab Sharikadze (Aurillac - ProD2 - France)
Giorgi Koshadze (Kharebi Rustavi - Didi10 - Georgia)
Giorgi Kveseladze (Armazi Marneuli - Didi10 - Georgia)
Davit Kacharava (Enisei-STM - Didi10 - Georgia)
Tamaz Mchedlidze (Agen - Top14 - France)
Giorgi Pruidze (Krasny Yar - RRPL - Russia)
Anzor Sichinava (Academia Tbilisi - Didi10 - Russia)
Soso Matiashvili (Krasny Yar - RRPL - Russia)
Beka Tsiklauri (Locomotive Tbilisi - Didi10 - Georgia)
I'll update my version because a lot of things I assumed there are turning out to look unlikely.
Healy, Best (Scannell if he doesn't make it), Furlong, Ryan, Henderson, Beirne, Leavy, Stander, Murray, Sexton, Stockdale, Henshaw, Ringrose, Earls, Kearney
Cronin (regardless of who starts), McGrath, Porter, POM, Jordi Murphy, Cooney, Carbery, Larmour.
Others: Best/Scannell/Another hooker (maybe Marshall), Bealham, Toner, A Leinster backrow (Conan, VDF, Ruddock, Doris, Deegan), McGrath/R. Byrne, Aki, Farrell, Conway.
People who just happen to be on a conveniently timed holiday on the East coast of China: Buckley, Herring, Ryan, Dillane, another Leinster backrow, another halfback, Arnold, Whoever wing is playing well.
2 Connacht which seems like a reasonable assessment of where the provinces are at at the moment.
I just typed this up without putting to much thought into it so there could be some stupid **** here that I haven't thought of.
Marshall and Kleyn are both IQ just before the WC but I wouldn't rate either of them highly enough to parachute them straight into the squad ahead of other players unless there are injuries. Might be a year to soon for Max Deegan and Caelan Doris both of whom are very talented but then again I wasn't expecting James Ryan to be as good as he us now for another three or four years so what do I know.
In the unlikely event that Sean O'Brien is fit then he'd probably slot in at 6 (which would probably lead to a fairly unbalanced backrow) or on the bench ahead of Nordi Murphy.
Props: Mako, Marler, Genge, Cole, Sinkler, Williams
Hookers: George, Cowan Dickie, Dunn
Second/Back row: Lawes, Launchbury, Itoje, Kruis, Vunipola, Simmonds, Robshaw, Shields, B Curry, Underhill
Scrum Half: Youngs, Care
Fly Half: Ford, Cips
Centre: Farrell, Joseph, Slade, Te'o (Tuilagi if fit)
Back 3: Watson, Nowell, Daly, May, Brown
British Irish Lions
That’s a 19/13 split. Who are you going to drop to make it 31?
Curry I think is the one to go... enough back row cover in there with Lawes and Itoje
1 Dani Priso
2 Camille Chat
3 Demba Bamba
4 Arthur Iturria
5 Swan Rebbaj
6 Sekou Macalou
7 Kevin Gourdon
8 Jordan Joseph
9 Antoine Dupont
10 Matthieu Jallibert/ Anthony Belleau
11 Alivereti Raka
12 Wesley Fofana
13 Damien Penaud
14 Teddy Thomas
15 Thomas Ramos
Subs: Cyrille Baille, Pierre Bourgarit, Wen Lauret, Yacouba Camara, Cedate Gomes SA, Louis Picamoles, Romain N'Tamack (can play 9 10 12), Louis Carbonel
Reserve (3rd choice): Guirado Slimani Ben Arous Poirot Vahaamina Gabrillagues Parra Machenaud Lopez Serin Lamerat Fickou Vakatawa Huget Grosso Dulin - 1st starters under Brunel...
EXIT: Atonio Bastareau Maestri Médard LeRoux Babillot Galletier Lapandry Sanconnie Plisson Doumayrou Fall - many are fringe players selected for the June tour...
1. Rob Evans
2. Ken Owens
3. Samson Lee
4. Cory Hill
6. Ross Moriarty
7. Sam Warburton
8. Taulupe Faletau
9. Gareth Davies
10. Rhys Patchell
11. Steff Evans
12. Hadleigh Parkes
13. Jonathan Davies
14. Josh Adams
15. Hallam Amos
16. Wyn Jones
17. Elliot Dee
18. Dillon Lewis
19. Seb Davies
20. Aaron Shingler
21. Tomos Williams
22. Gareth Anscombe
23. Liam Williams
24. Aaron Jarvis
25. Ryan Elias
26. Jake Ball
27. Josh Navidi
28. James Davies
29. Aled Davies
30. Scott Williams
31. Leigh Halfpenny
Was extremely tough and can’t believe I left North out of a 31. Also feel for Watkin, Jenkins and Beard but I felt that there is currently players with around the same amount of ability but with more experience (Williams, Navidi & Ball).
Also I went with the dual cover of Jarvis in an effort to take more back rowers but would depend on his season at the Dragons.
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