But the male dominated governments and church groups who controll the media have consistently sent messages to society, both liminally and subliminally, that males are good at sports. This has imbued itself into the thoughts of females, hugely affecting their confidence, but also lowered the expectations of coaches and trainers so they don't push them as hard, etc. As you identified it was the word average that I was disagreeing with. Sure the poster had a point, but it is far from the truth that the average man could win gold, despite your examples which still include men some distance from the mean. Yours was an Interesting post though.