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What's the real difference between #12 and #13?
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<blockquote data-quote="nickdnz" data-source="post: 774158" data-attributes="member: 38640"><p>I don't think you can characterize a 12 and 13 as "the big players" or the "smart ones".</p><p></p><p>The difference is simply where they would stand in the back-line.</p><p></p><p>Generally the 12 is going to play the 'second receiver role' more than the 13. Some teams like to opt for a big 12 - as it allows a hard runner to run off the flyhalf for when he takes the ball to the line. Someone like Nonu (when he started) to punch a whole through the line or set up a second phase off of Daniel Carter. Some teams however like a 12 with a good fast passing game, and a good kicking game - as since they generally operate in less space than a centre - it helps to have a player who can distribute quickly, and act as a first receiver to relieve pressure off the fly half. Someone like Aaron Mauger was very good in this role.</p><p></p><p>Same in many ways applies to a 13. As the 13 has more space to run - some teams opt to go for a big ball runner - as the space they have allows them to gain momentum. This is how Australia use Kurindrani and England use Manu Tuilagi. Other teams may pick a centre whose best attribute is their passing, as they want a centre who will try and create as much space for their outside backs. Centre is also typically a more difficult position to defend - because of the additional space and momentum generally afforded to the opposition players going out wide.</p><p></p><p>But the fact that some players may be limited in how teams use them, and their own skill-sets. Doesn't mean there are predefined roles. It depends on the squads makeup. You have guys at 13 like Mortlock and Umaga who were both really physical, and really smart players. Nonu's game has developed to the point is is both a great playermaker and linebreaker.</p><p></p><p>So no. The difference in the roles are probably more defined by how teams use them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nickdnz, post: 774158, member: 38640"] I don't think you can characterize a 12 and 13 as "the big players" or the "smart ones". The difference is simply where they would stand in the back-line. Generally the 12 is going to play the 'second receiver role' more than the 13. Some teams like to opt for a big 12 - as it allows a hard runner to run off the flyhalf for when he takes the ball to the line. Someone like Nonu (when he started) to punch a whole through the line or set up a second phase off of Daniel Carter. Some teams however like a 12 with a good fast passing game, and a good kicking game - as since they generally operate in less space than a centre - it helps to have a player who can distribute quickly, and act as a first receiver to relieve pressure off the fly half. Someone like Aaron Mauger was very good in this role. Same in many ways applies to a 13. As the 13 has more space to run - some teams opt to go for a big ball runner - as the space they have allows them to gain momentum. This is how Australia use Kurindrani and England use Manu Tuilagi. Other teams may pick a centre whose best attribute is their passing, as they want a centre who will try and create as much space for their outside backs. Centre is also typically a more difficult position to defend - because of the additional space and momentum generally afforded to the opposition players going out wide. But the fact that some players may be limited in how teams use them, and their own skill-sets. Doesn't mean there are predefined roles. It depends on the squads makeup. You have guys at 13 like Mortlock and Umaga who were both really physical, and really smart players. Nonu's game has developed to the point is is both a great playermaker and linebreaker. So no. The difference in the roles are probably more defined by how teams use them. [/QUOTE]
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