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What's up with England's ball-carrying forwards?
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<blockquote data-quote="goodNumber10" data-source="post: 695570" data-attributes="member: 71068"><p>IIRC He had an average defensive game in the second test, but shored everything up in the third after the Eastmond led defence capitulated... I;m not sure there is a massive issue with his tackling if he plays in a consisten defensive unit.</p><p></p><p>On 36, lets be fair, he's played with three unsettled combinations.</p><p></p><p>He played with Barritt in the 6Nations the dropped tot he bench on Tuilagis return, then Eastmond in Argentina, then Tomkins, then Burrell and now back to Barritt. None of us should forget the step up from club to international duty is huge and he's not even playing Champions Cup. I know it's the age old comparison but Greenwood did not come into the England team and be world class, he took two three season to settle and was played out of position by Woodward to accomodate Wilkinson etc.... Remember he made his name on the 97 Lions tour but it wasn't really until 2000,2001 lions tour people finally saw him living up to his potential, he went to tigers and flopped and then returned to Quins which is when he suddenly hit form again, he's only 26, has got 8 more caps than say Ford for example and never came through the age groups.</p><p></p><p>The point i'm making is we have no idea yet if he can perform against the big teams because he's basically a newbie.</p><p></p><p>Also i'll take this opportunity to say he looks like Napoleon Dynamite (just wanted to say that), and i'll also point out that this thread was about the forwards yet here we are guffing on about the backs yet again. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="goodNumber10, post: 695570, member: 71068"] IIRC He had an average defensive game in the second test, but shored everything up in the third after the Eastmond led defence capitulated... I;m not sure there is a massive issue with his tackling if he plays in a consisten defensive unit. On 36, lets be fair, he's played with three unsettled combinations. He played with Barritt in the 6Nations the dropped tot he bench on Tuilagis return, then Eastmond in Argentina, then Tomkins, then Burrell and now back to Barritt. None of us should forget the step up from club to international duty is huge and he's not even playing Champions Cup. I know it's the age old comparison but Greenwood did not come into the England team and be world class, he took two three season to settle and was played out of position by Woodward to accomodate Wilkinson etc.... Remember he made his name on the 97 Lions tour but it wasn't really until 2000,2001 lions tour people finally saw him living up to his potential, he went to tigers and flopped and then returned to Quins which is when he suddenly hit form again, he's only 26, has got 8 more caps than say Ford for example and never came through the age groups. The point i'm making is we have no idea yet if he can perform against the big teams because he's basically a newbie. Also i'll take this opportunity to say he looks like Napoleon Dynamite (just wanted to say that), and i'll also point out that this thread was about the forwards yet here we are guffing on about the backs yet again. :) [/QUOTE]
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