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What's up with England's ball-carrying forwards?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mrs. Peter Quinn" data-source="post: 696781" data-attributes="member: 12190"><p>Dis the truth. I think in a pack you need 3 decent to good carriers as a way to protect your single best carrier. Short of having this, you'd just need to be very tactically intelligent and elaborate about engineering carrying situations, and not make completely obvious where the ball will be and who will have it. Lancaster is not this man, hence I think he needs more carriers. </p><p></p><p>This was optimal when we had Tom Youngs, Ben Morgan and Mako Vunipola. It would have been even better with a carrying second row. </p><p>Right now we have Ben Morgan, David Attwood, and.... ? Joe Marler is a .5 of a carrier, its certainly not why he's in the team. Courtney Lawes has become a .5 of a carrier. Joe Launchbury in the loose is a good carrier. David Wilson can carry when he has a run-up. Dylan Hartley is the worst Carrying hooker on the international stage. So we're not in terrible shape but we do need an extra ball carrier. The most sensible place to find this would be at blindside. Goodbye, Tom.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I would extend the principle more generally to our backline attack. You need a couple of people able to break the gain-line and beat defenders so as to avoid a situation we have with Tuilagi where he is the threat and teams can focus energy on nullifying him. This is pretty much what happened in South Africa in 2012 where Tuilagi was the only real threat and wasn't even used well. </p><p>We're in better shape now that we have A strong back three, and George Ford at 10.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mrs. Peter Quinn, post: 696781, member: 12190"] Dis the truth. I think in a pack you need 3 decent to good carriers as a way to protect your single best carrier. Short of having this, you'd just need to be very tactically intelligent and elaborate about engineering carrying situations, and not make completely obvious where the ball will be and who will have it. Lancaster is not this man, hence I think he needs more carriers. This was optimal when we had Tom Youngs, Ben Morgan and Mako Vunipola. It would have been even better with a carrying second row. Right now we have Ben Morgan, David Attwood, and.... ? Joe Marler is a .5 of a carrier, its certainly not why he's in the team. Courtney Lawes has become a .5 of a carrier. Joe Launchbury in the loose is a good carrier. David Wilson can carry when he has a run-up. Dylan Hartley is the worst Carrying hooker on the international stage. So we're not in terrible shape but we do need an extra ball carrier. The most sensible place to find this would be at blindside. Goodbye, Tom. I would extend the principle more generally to our backline attack. You need a couple of people able to break the gain-line and beat defenders so as to avoid a situation we have with Tuilagi where he is the threat and teams can focus energy on nullifying him. This is pretty much what happened in South Africa in 2012 where Tuilagi was the only real threat and wasn't even used well. We're in better shape now that we have A strong back three, and George Ford at 10. [/QUOTE]
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