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Which Unions can cope with the financial impact of Coronavirus

All unions will take a hit. That hit will eventually see wages reduced for a few years. Some players who just signed new contracts got lucky. That's my take on it. I think the club teams might be hit more than the unions.
 
learnt something interesting yesterday

the AFL players union signed a new control within the last couple of years, players accepted a small raise in pay but negotiated primarily a share of profits....coming to bite them in the arse not seeing as there wont be profit for a couple of years
 
All unions will take a hit. That hit will eventually see wages reduced for a few years. Some players who just signed new contracts got lucky. That's my take on it. I think the club teams might be hit more than the unions.

Agreed, it may even level the playing field between NH and SH a bit as although both are losing revenue the NH will be losing more.
 
Aussies have stood down 75% of their staff until June 30th and is projecting a loss of $120 million revenue with the entire international season wiped out. Not unexpected, but you'd worry about the sport when this is all said and done.
 
Yeah it's hard to see Australia coming back from that considering how bad things have gotten over there for Union in general recently
 
Aussies have stood down 75% of their staff until June 30th and is projecting a loss of $120 million revenue with the entire international season wiped out. Not unexpected, but you'd worry about the sport when this is all said and done.
You do.

When this is all done and dusted I hope rugby and many other sports take a long hard look in the mirror and take the opportunity to reset as behind the glitz of the showcase events they largely seem to be built on foundations of sand. Of course these are exceptional times but we all knew the fault lines were there.
 
Coronavirus was just the nail in the coffin. USA rugby would have gone bankrupt years ago if it wasn't for world rugby. They probably would have declared after nationals this spring as they couldn't afford to host them.

If you're Union was strong before this it will be fine. Nothing was saving USA rugby.
Do you think rugby will be okay over there, or is this a major blow to the growth of the game?

Most of the Tier 1 countries will probably be fine I think, with the exception of Australia, and potentially the Celts (especially Scotland) if this goes on long enough). Tier 2 is the bigger worry for me, a lot of unions could struggle to stay afloat.
 
MLR is fine. It's only relationship with USA Rugby is that USA Rugby sanctions it.

The most likely solution is that a bare-boned national governing body will run the national teams while competitions will begin to run themselves. Frankly, large national structures are unamerican and regional/state based associations make the most sense. Colleges have been doing their own thing for awhile and the club game will become more local based. USA Rugby would just need to sanction all the events and let the rugby sort itself out. There's enough people here who love rugby enough to volunteer their time to make sure there is rugby every Saturday and that each Saturday the rugby gets better.

Honestly, not having as much of our dues go to the national body can only be good for USA Rugby. We need local leadership (I swear to god I'm not a Republican) with money who can do more to grow the game.
 
MLR is fine. It's only relationship with USA Rugby is that USA Rugby sanctions it.

The most likely solution is that a bare-boned national governing body will run the national teams while competitions will begin to run themselves. Frankly, large national structures are unamerican and regional/state based associations make the most sense. Colleges have been doing their own thing for awhile and the club game will become more local based. USA Rugby would just need to sanction all the events and let the rugby sort itself out. There's enough people here who love rugby enough to volunteer their time to make sure there is rugby every Saturday and that each Saturday the rugby gets better.

Honestly, not having as much of our dues go to the national body can only be good for USA Rugby. We need local leadership (I swear to god I'm not a Republican) with money who can do more to grow the game.

USA Rugby filed for bankruptcy. :eek: https://www.cbssports.com/general/n...nkruptcy-in-the-wake-of-coronavirus-outbreak/
 
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Yeah it's hard to see Australia coming back from that considering how bad things have gotten over there for Union in general recently
Aus Rugby, for those few paying attention, is currently undergoing a 'make Rugby great again' moment where the playing generation from the early 90s are trying to 'take back over' despite being unqualified and inexperienced. If you know who Phil Kearns is, he's posited to take over as CEO of RA despite having no sports admin experience.

Anyway yeah, shits ****** yo and if we don't go bankrupt we will be criminally mismanaged by egocentric Eastern Suburbs mugs from the 90s.
 
All unions will take a hit. That hit will eventually see wages reduced for a few years. Some players who just signed new contracts got lucky. That's my take on it. I think the club teams might be hit more than the unions.

Well stated profitius. I agree with you.
 
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You do.

When this is all done and dusted I hope rugby and many other sports take a long hard look in the mirror and take the opportunity to reset as behind the glitz of the showcase events they largely seem to be built on foundations of sand. Of course these are exceptional times but we all knew the fault lines were there.
Yes. I agree with this. Rugby as a sport has been it's own worst enemy. In the pursuit of trying to 'grow' (i.e. commercialise) the game, they've tried to behave like football clubs with a fraction of the fan base, infrastructure and money.

Player salaries have inflated to such an unsustainable scale that operating at a loss is pretty much inevitable even for clubs that can fill their stadia for every home game.

I don't blame the players for making hay while the sun was shining but now it's chucking it down, I don't know how much sympathy I'd have were they to follow up on their threats of strike action from the first round of COVID related cuts.
 
The real issue for the FFR is can they afford to have any of the bigger pro clubs go under. This is a possibility if the mismanagement by the government of the pandemic is set to continue in this country. If by the start of next year crowds are not back some Top 14 and ProD2 will eventually go under. Clubs backed by wealthy benefactors are the exception not the norm like Montpellier, Stade Français, Racing.
The government will have to step in to support pro clubs or they'll go bust. According to Toulouse president Didier Lacroix the club's survival is at stake beyond the first semester of 2021 if crowds are not allowed back. More wage cuts won't be enough. Most clubs can't survive very long with the current limitation to 5K fans.
 
Genuinely hope some French clubs go under. The French and English domestic competitions have destabilised Rugby all over the world.

A domestic salary cap should be a condition on participation in international rugby. Sustainability should be enforced.

Rugby isnt and hopefully never will turn into the soulless sportwashing shitshow that is the EPL.
 

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