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Who could claim an upset win?
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<blockquote data-quote="goodNumber10" data-source="post: 733164" data-attributes="member: 71068"><p>Stats are pretty useless unless you know what you're looking for.</p><p></p><p>England scored 18 tries in this years 6 nations, only 2 were scored in over 5 phases (over being 6 or more), joseph against Wales (20 phases) and Ford against Scotland (7). Only 2 were scored as a direct result of Forward dominance at the set piece: Vunipola vs Italy (peel) and Easter vs Italy (set and Drive) and one from a pick and go (Vunipola vs France).</p><p></p><p>So that leaves 14 tries scored in 5 phases or under (which doesn't indicate Forward dominance needed), in fact 13 of those were a direct result of Counter Attacks and 1st phase strike moves, with 10 of those tries coming from Counter attacks, 2 from 1st phase strike moves and one form a tap and go.</p><p></p><p>Here they are:</p><p></p><p></p><p>vs wales:</p><p></p><p>Watson try: 3 phases (grubber kick)</p><p>Joseph Try: 20 phases</p><p></p><p>vs italy </p><p>Vunipola: o phases (catch and peel)</p><p>jospeh: 0 phases (turn over & counter attack)</p><p>Youngs: 0 phases (tap and go)</p><p>Joseph: 0 phases (backline strike move)</p><p>Cipriani: 0 phases (turn over ball)</p><p>Easter: 0 phases (catch and drive)</p><p></p><p>vs Scotland</p><p>Joseph: 5 phases (counter attack)</p><p>Ford: 7 phases (then line break)</p><p>Nowell: 5 phases (counter attack)</p><p></p><p>vs France:</p><p>Youngs: 0 phases (counter attack)</p><p>Watson: 0 phases (counter attack)</p><p>Youngs: 1 phase (counter attack from try line, tap penalty in french 22)</p><p>Ford: 1 phase (counter attack then break by youngs)</p><p>Nowell: 1 phase (counter attack in French 22)</p><p>Vunipola: 5 phases (tap penalty and then pick and go)</p><p>Nowell: 0 phases (backs strike move)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wales have a far poorer showing of consistency than England, England lost to France 1st game last year, and Ireland 3rd Game this year, they've only been in with a mathematical shout finishing 2nd in the Championship for the last 3 years - Wales have been far more inconsistent finishing 3rd (2015), 3rd (2014), 1st (2013) 1st (2012 - Grand Slam) and lost to Samoa and Japan.</p><p></p><p>Everything indicates that Wales peaked at the last world cup, they seem to be all or nothing men..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="goodNumber10, post: 733164, member: 71068"] Stats are pretty useless unless you know what you're looking for. England scored 18 tries in this years 6 nations, only 2 were scored in over 5 phases (over being 6 or more), joseph against Wales (20 phases) and Ford against Scotland (7). Only 2 were scored as a direct result of Forward dominance at the set piece: Vunipola vs Italy (peel) and Easter vs Italy (set and Drive) and one from a pick and go (Vunipola vs France). So that leaves 14 tries scored in 5 phases or under (which doesn't indicate Forward dominance needed), in fact 13 of those were a direct result of Counter Attacks and 1st phase strike moves, with 10 of those tries coming from Counter attacks, 2 from 1st phase strike moves and one form a tap and go. Here they are: vs wales: Watson try: 3 phases (grubber kick) Joseph Try: 20 phases vs italy Vunipola: o phases (catch and peel) jospeh: 0 phases (turn over & counter attack) Youngs: 0 phases (tap and go) Joseph: 0 phases (backline strike move) Cipriani: 0 phases (turn over ball) Easter: 0 phases (catch and drive) vs Scotland Joseph: 5 phases (counter attack) Ford: 7 phases (then line break) Nowell: 5 phases (counter attack) vs France: Youngs: 0 phases (counter attack) Watson: 0 phases (counter attack) Youngs: 1 phase (counter attack from try line, tap penalty in french 22) Ford: 1 phase (counter attack then break by youngs) Nowell: 1 phase (counter attack in French 22) Vunipola: 5 phases (tap penalty and then pick and go) Nowell: 0 phases (backs strike move) Wales have a far poorer showing of consistency than England, England lost to France 1st game last year, and Ireland 3rd Game this year, they've only been in with a mathematical shout finishing 2nd in the Championship for the last 3 years - Wales have been far more inconsistent finishing 3rd (2015), 3rd (2014), 1st (2013) 1st (2012 - Grand Slam) and lost to Samoa and Japan. Everything indicates that Wales peaked at the last world cup, they seem to be all or nothing men.. [/QUOTE]
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