Why did the Wallabies lose!

Discussion in 'Tri Nations 2009-2011' started by Wazimba2K, Aug 30, 2009.

  1. Wazimba2K

    Wazimba2K Guest

    It was a deflating Tri-Nations Campaign. Full of ego, pride and joy, the only thing left in me is the tail between my legs after footing the bill at the Rugby bar last night. Even the fat chick with a Springbok Jersey won't take my number. It hurt so bad!LOL! I wish I had a Wallaby credit card and I would have gotten a hooker. This seems to be the norm. I won't name any names though! What happened to Lote anyway :lol:

    Back to Dingo and the Wallabies. During the 2004 Super 14 Finals btwn Crusaders and Brumbies, Deans actually substituted Carter and brought Mertehns in after trailing 24-0 in the first 20 minutes. The end result was close. 47-38 for the Brumbies. He should have made those second half changes way earlier at the 15-0 mark.

    Many assume Giteau deserves the #10 spot when he returns to the Brumbies but he doesn't. Lealiifano has done well this far and I think he should get a Wallaby call-up. Every time there is a highlight of a Wallabyplayer before a big match, that player always messes up. Follow the example of Giteau, Ashley-Cooper, Barnes and Brown. Go to rugbydump.com


    Many Wallabies wouldn't prefer Quade at fly-half going into the Tri-Nations 2010 and RWC 2011. Peter Hewat and Norton Knight were largely ignored for Wallaby call-ups. Since Burke, NSW hasn't produced a good full-back yet. Brumbies breeds the Fly-halves i.e Larkham and Giteau, Reds-Wingers Ioane and Hynes, NSW, front row-Nau & Robinson. What has the Force produced this far? It appeared the Force provided 6 starting Wallabies just for ticket sales promotion.

    Burgess has got to go.Habana slipped off of him, Giteau was playing fetch the Contortionist through the whole game and Burgess was not controlling the defense spread. He has no direct attack. Half the time his head is up looking around. It appears everyone is heading to the Brumbies in anticipation of the New Super 15 team formation. I think it would be a better edge during a contract negotiation to transfer from the Brumbies than to move from the Reds. Brumbies just have a talent overload. 3 fly-halves(Giteau, Lealiifano, and Tomua)3 Scrum halves(Phibbs, Valentine and Giteau)

    Ask me who the Wallaby fullback is and I blank out. O' Connor should have played 12 and Ashley Cooper 15. Period!
    Chisholm did well and I must say Mortlock's presence and Sharpe's ball carrying was missed. Ashley Cooper's hand-off was shut down and his inability to tackle on the left is no longer a secret. Fourie's and Habana's try were to his left. Check the Video. Coincidence. Check the Hong-Kong Bledisloe game. Sivivatu went inside on his left.

    I am not a Perth follower but even after watching the Ba-bas game, Cross resumes his line formation all the time without first securing the ball. No ball, no offense. So why not secure the ball first.

    Anyway, lets try clear things up and comment more.

    Thank you!
     
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  3. Fushitsusha

    Fushitsusha Guest

    Sharpe's ability to go missing in the tight wasn't missed...

    It's no surprise that Giteau played significantly better when Genia came on and gave him consistently good service that he was able to run onto...

    Burgess needs to be dumped... so does Brown, he has been terrible the entire 3N and his time is up...

    While Cross is a good attacking player his defence is suspect at outside centre... like most league converts...

    Australia had a quality fullback in Gerrard, but Deans isn't a fan... oh well...
     
  4. Wally

    Wally Guest

    What happened to Cameron Shepherd?

    The Wallabies looked best when they played 9. Genia 10. Cooper 12. Giteau - It's no secret Giteau has played his best football at inside centre. In any case they have gone from bad to worse this season, and appear poorly coached at times.
     
  5. Wally

    Wally Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE ("Melhor Time")</div>
     
  6. Wazimba2K

    Wazimba2K Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wally @ Aug 29 2009, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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  7. Fushitsusha

    Fushitsusha Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wally @ Aug 30 2009, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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    :lol:

    Priceless...
     
  8. Wally

    Wally Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fushitsusha @ Aug 30 2009, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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    :lol:

    Priceless...

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    Haha you are a ********. Do you actually think Deans wouldn't pick Gasnier if he could, considering Mortlock and Barnes are injured and Ashley-Cooper and Cross were terrible in defence / attack? I don't agree with selecting Brock James though, but that's just based on my preconceptions of him when he was playing in Australia. I haven't seen him since.

    Does anyone think the Australian front row has come on in leaps and bounds since the Eddie Jones era? Line out has gone backwards though.
     
  9. Fushitsusha

    Fushitsusha Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wally @ Aug 30 2009, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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    :lol:

    Priceless...

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    Haha you are a ********. Do you actually think Deans wouldn't pick Gasnier if he could, considering Mortlock and Barnes are injured and Ashley-Cooper and Cross were terrible in defence / attack? I don't agree with selecting Brock James though, but that's just based on my preconceptions of him when he was playing in Australia. I haven't seen him since.

    Does anyone think the Australian front row has come on in leaps and bounds since the Eddie Jones era? Line out has gone backwards though.
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    Yes, I'm assuming that Deans would pluck another has-been rugby league player from the French Top14 with little top level rugby experience to play for the Wallabies at outside centre.
     
  10. TRUE LEGND

    TRUE LEGND Guest

    Why did they lose???

    BEATEN BY A VERY GOOD TEAM

    To be quite honest i cant even see the All Blacks stopping them
     
  11. Wally

    Wally Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fushitsusha @ Aug 30 2009, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    [/b][/quote]

    :lol:

    Priceless...

    [/b][/quote]
    Haha you are a ********. Do you actually think Deans wouldn't pick Gasnier if he could, considering Mortlock and Barnes are injured and Ashley-Cooper and Cross were terrible in defence / attack? I don't agree with selecting Brock James though, but that's just based on my preconceptions of him when he was playing in Australia. I haven't seen him since.

    Does anyone think the Australian front row has come on in leaps and bounds since the Eddie Jones era? Line out has gone backwards though.
    [/b][/quote]

    Yes, I'm assuming that Deans would pluck another has-been rugby league player from the French Top14 with little top level rugby experience to play for the Wallabies at outside centre.

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    You should see how many sleeping bills you can swallow with brandy.
     
  12. InsaneAsylum

    InsaneAsylum Guest

    even though the wallabies lost last night, i enjoyed watching the game. i'll always have faith in the wallabies even though they are the failabies this year.

    now that the trinations and bledisloe are locked away for another year, i'd like to see the following team from up next week (i'll probably get flamed for this)

    1. robinson
    2. polota-nau
    3. alexander/baxter
    4. Horwill
    5. chisholm because sharpe is a soft cock
    6. elsom
    7. the man with the most ticker in world rugby
    8. richard "i'm going to learn how to catch a f***ing ball" brown
    9. genia because burgess has lost his mojo
    10. cooper or some other flyhalf, but not kurtley beale
    11. hynes
    12. giteau
    13. cross
    14. turner/mitchell/preferably jonah lomu in his prime
    15. two dads ashley cooper

    this combo seemed to look like it worked last night, it could work again in brisbane, who knows but what i do know is playing the same people in the same position or out of position doesn't seem to be working, time to think outside the sqare.

    the other thing that i noticed about the wallabies. it seems that they get the ball and don't know what to do with it. often i saw a player take the ball and end up going backwards because they seem to have so many options that they can't make a decision about which option is best.
     
  13. Wazimba2K

    Wazimba2K Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (InsaneAsylum @ Aug 30 2009, 01:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
     
  14. Fushitsusha

    Fushitsusha Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wally @ Aug 30 2009, 07:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    [/b][/quote]

    :lol:

    Priceless...

    [/b][/quote]
    Haha you are a ********. Do you actually think Deans wouldn't pick Gasnier if he could, considering Mortlock and Barnes are injured and Ashley-Cooper and Cross were terrible in defence / attack? I don't agree with selecting Brock James though, but that's just based on my preconceptions of him when he was playing in Australia. I haven't seen him since.

    Does anyone think the Australian front row has come on in leaps and bounds since the Eddie Jones era? Line out has gone backwards though.
    [/b][/quote]

    Yes, I'm assuming that Deans would pluck another has-been rugby league player from the French Top14 with little top level rugby experience to play for the Wallabies at outside centre.

    [/b][/quote]
    You should see how many sleeping bills you can swallow with brandy.
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    Your infactuation with Gasnier is odd...

    He has yet to put himself into a position where he could actually be considered an option for the Wallabies yet you think he's an automatic selection...

    He's only in his second year of rugby...

    He's mostly been playing on the wing...

    He hasn't played in the Super 14 yet...

    Outside centre is not a position that has generally highlighted the shortcomings of rugby league converts...

    Maybe if he plays down here... at outside centre... and actually stands out in this game... then maybe he could be considered an option...
     
  15. Charles

    Charles Guest

    They lost because their forward pack is kak, and Burgess hasn't got a clue.
    If you want to compete against SA you need a pack full of hard, mean ********. Obviously the wobbly set piece and numerous knock-ons didn't help either...
     
  16. InsaneAsylum

    InsaneAsylum Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wazimba2K @ Aug 30 2009, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    polota-nau...moore...same **** really. not saying moore is crap, i'd just like to see polota-nau start.
    well i put cooper at fly half because his twinkle toes and flashy play on saturday night actually seemed to work.
    cross, well every time i've seen him play he has the ability to go forward which is not really a bad thing, and mortlock's knee is f***ed.

    "two dads" is an australian coloquialism for anyone with a hyphenated surname, nothing to do specifically with adam ashley-cooper.
    i call sir jo bejelke-petersen two dads as well
     
  17. Wally

    Wally Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fushitsusha @ Aug 30 2009, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    [/b][/quote]

    :lol:

    Priceless...

    [/b][/quote]
    Haha you are a ********. Do you actually think Deans wouldn't pick Gasnier if he could, considering Mortlock and Barnes are injured and Ashley-Cooper and Cross were terrible in defence / attack? I don't agree with selecting Brock James though, but that's just based on my preconceptions of him when he was playing in Australia. I haven't seen him since.

    Does anyone think the Australian front row has come on in leaps and bounds since the Eddie Jones era? Line out has gone backwards though.
    [/b][/quote]

    Yes, I'm assuming that Deans would pluck another has-been rugby league player from the French Top14 with little top level rugby experience to play for the Wallabies at outside centre.

    [/b][/quote]
    You should see how many sleeping bills you can swallow with brandy.
    [/b][/quote]

    Your infactuation with Gasnier is odd...

    He has yet to put himself into a position where he could actually be considered an option for the Wallabies yet you think he's an automatic selection...

    He's only in his second year of rugby...

    He's mostly been playing on the wing...

    He hasn't played in the Super 14 yet...

    Outside centre is not a position that has generally highlighted the shortcomings of rugby league converts...

    Maybe if he plays down here... at outside centre... and actually stands out in this game... then maybe he could be considered an option...
    [/b][/quote]
    What I said was if he was eligible right now and the logistics weren't impossible of course Deans would play him. Obviously he has to prove himself between now and the world cup before he becomes Australia's first choice outside centre. I've just stated that I believe he will do so.
     
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