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<blockquote data-quote="Canadian_Rugger" data-source="post: 632104" data-attributes="member: 12699"><p>Never once did I say we would close down tests outside the Rugby World Cup, I said we need three tests windows a year and they need to be unified between the hemisphere's. </p><p></p><p>I'll repeat it</p><p></p><p>1. A test window for major tournament's i.e. Six Nations/Tri-Nation's/RWC etc...</p><p>2. A Spring test window; and</p><p>3. A Fall test window</p><p></p><p>When it's a RWC year Tri-Nations and Six Nations are cancelled</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet more fallacious argumentation from you and your Kiwi arrogance really shines through on this one. Canada doesn't get any tests for the same reasons the US doesn't get any tests... rugby is run like an Oligarchy in that the Tier-1 nations only want to play each other as it makes them more money then playing a Tier-2 nation hence why NZ wasn't willing to giveup a lucrative match against a Six Nations side to play a test against the USA within the international window. Again logistics aren't very hard, simply a matter of will power.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again your taking my argument and spinning it. Ever heard of the idea of revenue sharing? Not all the money from a RWC should go to the clubs but they need to be considered as stakeholders along with the national unions. The RWC 2007 in France made 90 Million Euros in profit. Why didn't the clubs receive some of that money.</p><p></p><p>I agree with you that nations like Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, Namibia need funding support from the IRB but if nations like Romania, Georgia, Canada, USA and Japan were given proper tests against Tier 1 oppositon regularly and at home, we would make enough money to run our national program in a self-sustaining manner. Our national programs are unsustaining because we are forced to travel to play all our games and we rarely get major international tests. </p><p></p><p>In defence of Canada, anytime we tour Europe we always play at least one game against a Tier 3 side. In recent years we have played Belgium, Portugal, Spain and Russia. How many Tier 2 have the All Blacks, England, France, Australia, South Africa played in a test window?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Canadian_Rugger, post: 632104, member: 12699"] Never once did I say we would close down tests outside the Rugby World Cup, I said we need three tests windows a year and they need to be unified between the hemisphere's. I'll repeat it 1. A test window for major tournament's i.e. Six Nations/Tri-Nation's/RWC etc... 2. A Spring test window; and 3. A Fall test window When it's a RWC year Tri-Nations and Six Nations are cancelled Yet more fallacious argumentation from you and your Kiwi arrogance really shines through on this one. Canada doesn't get any tests for the same reasons the US doesn't get any tests... rugby is run like an Oligarchy in that the Tier-1 nations only want to play each other as it makes them more money then playing a Tier-2 nation hence why NZ wasn't willing to giveup a lucrative match against a Six Nations side to play a test against the USA within the international window. Again logistics aren't very hard, simply a matter of will power. Again your taking my argument and spinning it. Ever heard of the idea of revenue sharing? Not all the money from a RWC should go to the clubs but they need to be considered as stakeholders along with the national unions. The RWC 2007 in France made 90 Million Euros in profit. Why didn't the clubs receive some of that money. I agree with you that nations like Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, Namibia need funding support from the IRB but if nations like Romania, Georgia, Canada, USA and Japan were given proper tests against Tier 1 oppositon regularly and at home, we would make enough money to run our national program in a self-sustaining manner. Our national programs are unsustaining because we are forced to travel to play all our games and we rarely get major international tests. In defence of Canada, anytime we tour Europe we always play at least one game against a Tier 3 side. In recent years we have played Belgium, Portugal, Spain and Russia. How many Tier 2 have the All Blacks, England, France, Australia, South Africa played in a test window? [/QUOTE]
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