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<blockquote data-quote="BokMagic" data-source="post: 123683"><p>***us, I hear what you`re saying, and I respect your point of view, but I do disagree mate.</p><p></p><p>The problem facing Israel at the moment is that even though they want to withdraw from the occupied territories on boh the Palestinian and Lebanese sides, they do need that buffer zone for their own protection and security.</p><p></p><p>Look what happened when they withdrew from the West Bank- a whole group of Hamas soldiers just moved into the territory and started firing away with rockets at Israeli territory. And look at what happened during the whole Hisbollah crisis in Lebanon- if Hisbollah was really so concerned for the plight of the average Lebanese, they surely wouldn`t have held civilians as human shields. And yes, that did happen, even though it wasn`t widely reported. Just like the 1,000`s of mortars fired off at Israeli territory during the whole war.</p><p></p><p>Look, my personal viewpoint is this- as long as groups like Hamas in the Palestine authority remain, there can be no peace in the middle east- they are an organisation that has stated on numerous occasions that they won`t be satisfied ntil the state of Israel no longer exists. The only chance for peace is for the moderates on both sides of the coin- both the Israeli and Palestinian side- can come together, talk and both parties compromise, instead of killing each other. Because one revenge attack only results in another revenge attack.</p><p></p><p>I know it sounds impossible, but it did happen over here in SA. Before the 1992 elections, the moderates of both the old government and the ANC got together and talked things through. Sure there were radical elements who wanted nothing more than completely destroying the other, but in the end it took 2 great leaders- FW De Klerk and Nelson Mandela- to sit down and talk a way to a peaceful election and transition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BokMagic, post: 123683"] ***us, I hear what you`re saying, and I respect your point of view, but I do disagree mate. The problem facing Israel at the moment is that even though they want to withdraw from the occupied territories on boh the Palestinian and Lebanese sides, they do need that buffer zone for their own protection and security. Look what happened when they withdrew from the West Bank- a whole group of Hamas soldiers just moved into the territory and started firing away with rockets at Israeli territory. And look at what happened during the whole Hisbollah crisis in Lebanon- if Hisbollah was really so concerned for the plight of the average Lebanese, they surely wouldn`t have held civilians as human shields. And yes, that did happen, even though it wasn`t widely reported. Just like the 1,000`s of mortars fired off at Israeli territory during the whole war. Look, my personal viewpoint is this- as long as groups like Hamas in the Palestine authority remain, there can be no peace in the middle east- they are an organisation that has stated on numerous occasions that they won`t be satisfied ntil the state of Israel no longer exists. The only chance for peace is for the moderates on both sides of the coin- both the Israeli and Palestinian side- can come together, talk and both parties compromise, instead of killing each other. Because one revenge attack only results in another revenge attack. I know it sounds impossible, but it did happen over here in SA. Before the 1992 elections, the moderates of both the old government and the ANC got together and talked things through. Sure there were radical elements who wanted nothing more than completely destroying the other, but in the end it took 2 great leaders- FW De Klerk and Nelson Mandela- to sit down and talk a way to a peaceful election and transition. [/QUOTE]
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