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my Wales team

1 Nickey Smith
2 Ken Owens,
3 Samson lee
4 Corry Hill
5 Alun Wyn Jones (Captain),
6 Aaron Wainwright
7 Justin Tipuric
8 Toby Faletau
9 Tomos Williams,
10 Gareth Anscombe,
11 Josh Adams,
12 Scott Willams
13 Jonathan Davies,
14 George North,
15 Leigh Halfpenny

Replacements:
16 Elliot Dee,
17 Rob evens
18 Dillon Lewis,
19 Seb Davies
20 Ellis Jenkins,
21 Aled Davies
22 Dan Biggar,
23 Liam willams

reverses
24. Leon Brown
25. Jake Ball
26. Josh Navidi
27. Ross Moriarty
28. Gareth Davies
29. Rhys Patchell
30. Jonah holmes
31. Owen Watkin

whats your idea Squad for your Country guys :)
 
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My personal team for England, which won’t happen.

1 Genge
2 George
3 Cole
4 Itoje
5 Lawes
6 Underhill
7 T Curry
8 B Vunipola

9 Youngs
10 Ford
11 May
12 Farrell
13 Joseph
14 Cokanasiga
15 Watson

16 Hartley
17 M Vunipola
18 Sinckler
19 Kruis
20 Wilson
21 Robson
22 Tuilagi
23 Daly

Squad fillers

24 Cowan Dickie
25 Moon
26 Williams
27 Isiekwe
28 Shields
29 Care
30 Slade
31 Nowell



Guys with a chance of breaking into the team.

Taylor
Dombrandt
Mercer
Attwood
Ewels
Launchbury
S Simmonds
Kvesic
Cipriani
Thorley
Morgan
Brown
Goode
Lewington
B Curry
J Willis
Thomas
J Williams
 

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Oh go on then :

Vunipola
Hartley
Sinckler
Krutoje
Krutoje
Underhill
Curry
Wilson

Spencer
Cipriani
May
Manu
Slade
Big Jo
Watson


Bench :
Marler
George
Cole
Lawes
Billy (beefed up again for max impact part of game)
Youngs
Ford
Daly

Others :
Genge
?
Williams ?
Simmonds
Shields
Wigglesworth
Nowell
Josephs (sic)
 

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1. Rob Evans
2. Ken Owens
3. Tomas Francis
4. Corey Hill
5. Alan Wyn Jones
6. Ross Moriarty
7. Josh Navidi
8. Talupe Faletau
9. Rhys Webb
10. Gareth Anscombe
11. Josh Adams
12. Hadleigh Parkes
13. Jonathan Davies
14. George North
15. Liam Williams

16. Elliot Dee
17. Nicky Smith
18. Dillon Lewis
19. Adam Beard
20. Justin Tipuric
21. Tomos Williams
22. Dan Biggar
23. Owen Watkin

24. Ryan Elias
25. Wyn Jones
26. Samson Lee
27. Seb Davies
28. Ellis Jenkins
29. Gareth Davies
30. Rhys Patchell
31. Owen Lane
 

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Does Shingler have time to get back in to contention for Wales?
 

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Does Shingler have time to get back in to contention for Wales?
He still hasn't started contact yet, so doubtful although if fit he would be a great shout.
 

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Does Shingler have time to get back in to contention for Wales?
Maybe, but likely he'd have to show he's match fit and ready in the August warm ups which may be difficult considering he's unlikely to play for the Scarlets again. Gatland values him and the line out skills he brings so wouldn't be shocked to see him make the cut either way.
 

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Mako
Hartley
Sinks
Itoje
Kruis(surprised im saying this one over launch)
Underhill
TCurry
Billy

Spencer(youngs will be if fit)
Faz
May
Manu
Slade
Nowell
Daly

George
Genge
Williams
Lawes
Wilson
Robson
Ford
Watson

LCD
Moon
Cole
Launchbury
Shields or hughes IDK
Care
JJ
Big joe
 

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Here’s mine:

1. M. Vunipola / Genge
2. George / Hartley / Cowan-Dickie
3. Sinckler / Cole / Williams
4. Itoje / Lawes
5. Kruis / Launchbury
6. Wilson / Robshaw / Shields
7. T. Curry / Underhill
8. B. Vunipola
9. B. Youngs / Care
10. Farrell / Ford
11. May / Cokanasiga
12. Tuilagi
13. Slade / Joseph
14. Watson / Nowell
15. Daly / Brown

I’d be happy enough with Wilson covering Billy at 8 and I’d prefer Shields to Hughes.

Taking only one player for 12 is a bit of a risk, but Farrell or Slade could do that role.
 

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Mine would be:

1. M. Vunipola
2. George
3. Sinckler
4. Itoje
5. Lawes (but I think this would change with Launch and Kruis depending on opposition)
6. Underhill
7. T. Curry
8. B. Vunipola
9. Robson
10. Farrell (I'd bring on Ford more, especially if Farrell loses his head)
11. May
12. Tuilagi
13. Slade
14. Cokanasiga
15. Daly

16. Hartley (Bring on when Farrell loses his cool to provide some stability)
17. Genge
18. Williams
19. Launchbury
20. Wilson
21. Spencer
22. Cipriani
23. Nowell

24. LCD
25 Moon
26. Cole (Purely because of a lack of other options)
27. Kruis
28. Shields
29. Youngs/Care (toss up really)
30. Ford
31. Brown

I'm factoring slightly that Farrell will still be captain and so has to start.
 

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1. Healy
2. Best (I think there are definitely better hookers and maybe better captains but it's too late to change it)
3. Furlong
4. Henderson (need him in there because our flankers and hooker aren't strong ball carriers)
5. Ryan
6. O'Mahony (I complain about him but he is actually our best 6)
7. Van Der Flier (please let him he fit)
8. Stander (although if Conan keeps up his current form...)

9. Murray
10. Sexton (both hinging on better form)
11. Stockdale
12. Henshaw
13. Ringrose
14. Earls
15. Kearney

16. Cronin (whatever about impact subs, I think he's a better player than Scannell)
17. Kilcoyne
18. Porter
19. Toner
20. Conan
21. Cooney
22. Carbery
23. Larmour

Scannell, John Ryan, Beirne, Jordi Murphy (unless SOB finds his form, although someone like Deegan or Jack O'Donoghue could come in here), Marmion, Ross Byrne (Carbery and Carty might be better attacking 10s but he's easily the most composed which is more important in a backup 10 imo), Bundee Aki and Will Addison in the squad.
 

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1. Healy
2. Best (I think there are definitely better hookers and maybe better captains but it's too late to change it)
3. Furlong
4. Henderson (need him in there because our flankers and hooker aren't strong ball carriers)
5. Ryan
6. O'Mahony (I complain about him but he is actually our best 6)
7. Van Der Flier (please let him he fit)
8. Stander (although if Conan keeps up his current form...)

9. Murray
10. Sexton (both hinging on better form)
11. Stockdale
12. Henshaw
13. Ringrose
14. Earls
15. Kearney

16. Cronin (whatever about impact subs, I think he's a better player than Scannell)
17. Kilcoyne
18. Porter
19. Toner
20. Conan
21. Cooney
22. Carbery
23. Larmour

Scannell, John Ryan, Beirne, Jordi Murphy (unless SOB finds his form, although someone like Deegan or Jack O'Donoghue could come in here), Marmion, Ross Byrne (Carbery and Carty might be better attacking 10s but he's easily the most composed which is more important in a backup 10 imo), Bundee Aki and Will Addison in the squad.
I'd swap Marmion or Byrne for Adam Byrne and keep the 31 players you have there. Conan should straight up start with Nordi or Beirne on the bench at this stage, he's way ahead of Stander right now.

I'd swap Best and Scannell too and make Ryan match day captain too, I feel that could rejuvenate the team massively which is needed.
 

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I'd swap Marmion or Byrne for Adam Byrne and keep the 31 players you have there. Conan should straight up start with Nordi or Beirne on the bench at this stage, he's way ahead of Stander right now.

I'd swap Best and Scannell too and make Ryan match day captain too, I feel that could rejuvenate the team massively which is needed.
I'd agree with most of that except I think we should take 6 halfbacks. I'm not convinced by the whole 'Cooney can cover 10' idea. I'd probably make Ryan captain and start Conan at the moment but realistically Joe won't.
 

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So I think squad should be;

Props
Joe Moody
Owen Franks
Karl Tu'inukuafe
Ofa Tu'ungafasi

Hookers
Dane Coles
Cody Taylor
Nathan Harris

Locks
Brodie Retallick
Sam Whitelock
Scott Barrett
Patrick Tuipulotu

Back Row
Kieran Reid
Sam Cane
Liam Squire
Akira Ioane
Shannon Frizell
Ardie Savea
Vaea Fifita

Half backs
Aaron Smith
TJ Perenara

1st 5/8ths
Beauden Barrett
Richie Mo’unga

Centres
Ryan Crotty
Jack Goodhue
Ngani Laumape
Anton Leniert-Brown

Outside backs
Ben Smith
Jordie Barrett
David Havili
Reiko Ioane
Waisake Naholo

Talking points (for the above);
- gone for an extra back rower as we’ve had some injury problems there recently and I worry that given the speed we need to hit rucks to generate the quick ball we want, we’ll likely lose a number to injury. I also don’t think the drop off is particularly steep if any of these players came in
- 3 hookers as Dane has his injury problems too and it’s one of those specialised positions that seems to usually have 3 deep travelling.
- only 2 half backs. The drop off from TJ and Aaron to the rest is a chasm and I don’t feel comfortable having passengers at the World Cup is appropriate. Also they’ve had a relatively ok injury history and both have phenomenal stamina so should be able to cope with the volume of games
- only 2 1st 5/8ths. This is completely driven by no D-Mac, with Havili in his place. Jordie can cover centre and if desperately needed 10 as well as 14&15 so he will be our emergency 10 I think. Havili has been excellent this season in super rugby, been around the wider squad for a while now and can cover a number of positions well.
- no Nonu; he’ll be at the end of a long season and he’s not getting much rest from the Blues, so I worry that he will run out of steam at a crucial point.
 

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Pretty sure it’s a requirement to take 5 props.
 

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Pretty sure it’s a requirement to take 5 props.
It is as is three hookers basically. There must be sufficient front rower cover for a last minute injury.

Taking 4 halfbacks total is also courting disaster.
 

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It is as is three hookers basically. There must be sufficient front rower cover for a last minute injury.

Taking 4 halfbacks total is also courting disaster.
Think Australia only took 2 hookers to the last RWC but I may be wrong.
 

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Think Australia only took 2 hookers to the last RWC but I may be wrong.
You're right. I may have interpreted the laws wrong. I did find a quote from Cheika about believing they could cover in the short term so it's possible they felt one of the props are backrows fit the requirements.
 

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I was reading the rules and seems that you’re right regarding the need for emergency replacements to be in the 31 man squad. Does this mean though that at least one of your props must be able to play and be “suitably trained and experienced” in packing down both sides of the scrum, or you’re going to have to take 6 props? If one has to take 5, I’d have to drop Fifita or Akira, although would be reticent to do so.

On 4 half backs, I’m using Jordie as a fallback at 10 if needs be. He has done it at age grade level and filled in there a couple of times for the Canes, so as an emergency could do the job. I’d also suggest that if one of the half backs was injured, even the day before a game, the other could play 80 mins and they’d then have someone come out for the next game. I think also if needed Ben Smith could fill in at half back.
 
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