your country's 31 man squad for the 2023 World Cup

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  1. Tigs Man

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    I don't pick players based on club.

    Only really Maunder would be someone I would pick ATM.
    Cowan-Dickie and Slade i'm mmmmmm on.
     
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    Reckon Beaudy will still have his wheels at 32?

    Dont forget he's also coming to the Blues from next year. And if anyone can shaft a career a career, its us.
     
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    Slade 25 LCD 26 nowell 26. All could be there.
     
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    1) Steven Kitshoff, Lizo Gqoboca (or Ox Nche)
    2) Malcolm Marx, Bongi Mbonambi, Joseph Dweba
    3) Frans Malherbe, Vincent Koch, Thomas du Toit
    4) Eben Etzebeth, RG Snyman
    5) Lood de Jager, JJ Van der Mescht
    6) Marcell Coetzee, Marco van Staden
    7) Pieter-Steph du Toit, Jean-Luc du Preez
    8) Siya Kolisi (c)
    9) Faf de Klerk, Cobus Reinach, Herschell Jantjies
    10) Handre Pollard, Curwin Bosch
    11) Aphiwe Dyantyi
    12) Jan Serfontein, Damian de Allende
    13) Lukhanyo Am, Jesse Kriel
    14) Cheslin Kolbe, Sbusiso Nkosi
    15) Damian Willemse, Warrick Gelant

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    My assumption was anyone 30 or older now gets the cut. Mapimpi is the exception being 29 now. I just felt 33 is too old for a winger.
     
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    I think it's safe to say that this will be the core group. But I have an idea there will be a couple of other guys also involved by the time we go to the World Cup.

    I think we have a few guys that were part of the U/20 squad this year, apart from van der Mescht that should also be a consideration. Like Francke Horn, James Mollentze, Sanele Nohamba, Rikus Pretorius & Elrich Louw.
     
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    Of course injury will probably also be a consideration. All of Dyantyi, Coetzee, Serfontein and Nyakane would've featured this RWC if not for injury (and the doping cloud over Dyantyi o_O) and I'm probably forgetting a player or two as I remember it was definately more than the 4.
     
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    Yeah, you are forgetting the rest of the guys that were on the standby list:

    Andre Esterhuizen
    Rynhard Elstadt
    Marvin Orie
    Dillyn Leyds
    Scarra Ntubeni
     
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    I see there is a lot of Stormers in that squad as starters:

    1 Kitshoff
    2 Mbonambi
    3 Malherbe / Louw
    4 Etzebeth

    5 JD Schickerling
    6 Kolisi
    7 PSDT

    8 Juarno Augustus / Notshe / Johan du Toit
    9 Jantjies
    10 Josh Stander
    11 Seabelo Senatla
    12 De Allende
    13 SP Marais
    14 Dillon Leyds
    15 Willemse

    My question would be how can the Bokke take out a RWC but us Stormers can't get any luck at SR. We even had Rassie as director of Rugby and relatively recently had all of Vermeulen, Flouw, Elstadt and Kolbe. Leyds, Ntubeni, Notshe and Wilco Louw are also fringe Bokke and Augustus has a lot of potential. Must be the holiday culture of Cape Town and surrounds as culture is all we have different from the Bokke I can think of relative to the level of competition.
     
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    1. Thomas Du Toit
    2. Marx
    3. Ox Nche
    4.Etzebeth
    5. PSdT (Yes, I will make him a lock again)
    6. Marcel Coetzee
    7. Jean Luc du Preez
    8. Dan du Preez
    9. Faf/ Jantjies
    10. Pollard (We play him until he is 35)
    11. Nkosi
    12. Serfontein
    13. Kriel
    14. Kolbe
    15. Fassi

    Notable mentions of guys who can make up the 23 or who might be in an out of the squad
    Curwin Bosch
    Damian Willemse
    Van der Mesch
    Juarno Augustus
    Frans Steyn
    Muller du Plessis
    Werner Kok
    Lood de Jager
    RG Snyman
    Jaco Coetzee (Watch this space guys, this guy is the real deal)
    Chris van Zyl

    The thing is though that many people said we are actually building for 2023 so we really should keep faith in most players of 2019 provided that they stay on form and don't retire. The young guns can challenge them and keep up the high levels.

    Barring some amazing find next year, I would like it if some of our experienced guys like the Vermeulens, Steyns, Mtawariras of the world stay in the squad atleast until the Lions tour
     
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    If his defence can be sorted he can still be a real contender. Is he planning to stick to FB? He’s always looked like a 12 to me.
     
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    I'll just concentrate on young players I see regularly at saints.
    9.Mitchell ex England under 20s had a sniff at senior Level possible a contender out with Injury at present.
    10. Grayson runs and kicks well behind obviously Ford Farrell Smith so will need a mega season .
    13.Dingwall Liking the look of this lad however saints strong in centres wonder if he gets a decent run as will be behind Francis, Proctor Symonds Hutchinson.
    14.Slightholme quick as a young type of Jonny May needs a bit of improvement on defense at Prem level but only 21.
    15.Furbank bit of a bolter out of academy Boyd is making him a player.
    Mallinder really worried he wont have a position to make is own needs a big season when returns from injury.
    3.Painter needs to get fitter at Prem level to Judge if can move on.
    Hill great for a few minutes then anonymous for periods.
    Coles 2nd row also can play 6 WIP but hopefully he will be the next Courts.
    Ludlum all ready there but alot of good young Flankers around.
    Nice to see a load of Saints coming through Academy and given a chance by Boyd and alot grabbing it.
     
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    31 is a too small number for a long tournament (max 7 games). The number of squad should be 46 (plus unlimited number of injury subs).
     
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    The reasons behind this ? this only undermines countries without depth and helps the top nations.
     
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    15.Mcconnochie, Watch this space!
     
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    32 year old winger?
     
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    31... but without having been flogged in an academy since the age of 18 will still be in his prime!

    Jason Robbinson was 33 in 2007
     
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    Fair,
    I just can't see him getting the past the alternatives at 28+
     
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