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<blockquote data-quote="Umaga&#039;s Witness" data-source="post: 995096" data-attributes="member: 65365"><p>I agree, you won't beat South Africa at their game. And there is no like for like. On the one hand you have psdt, a world class blindside who is also a world class lock, on the other hand you can choose either a world class lock to play blindside or a world class blindside to play blindside, not both.</p><p></p><p>wilson is pretty good in the line out, and has pace and dynamism to support an alternative style, so what if you went</p><p>ryan</p><p>Itoje</p><p>Curry</p><p>Underhill</p><p>Wilson</p><p></p><p>is there enough grunt in there to gain parity in the scrum, assuming your best scrummaging front row?</p><p></p><p>I've watched a lot of all blacks South Africa games over the years and when they win its always been the same way. We always try and run around them, but when we can't lay the foundation we fail. So I can see where people are coming from when they are looking for some more bulk and power up front, because we've needed it in the past even when not trying to beat them at their own game.</p><p></p><p>the Northern hemisphere game has been fine tuned in recent years though, for some time they have been good at maintaining possession and grinding away, but in the past it has been insufficient because while trying to get to the try line by moving 5 metres per minute, you would eventually fail. But in recent years England, Ireland, and wales have all had times of extreme perfection in this style. Ireland and, particularly, wales have done this without strong ball carriers, though they have used some bulk. Then at times they have had insufficient bulk for this style, I'm thinking Leinster against Saracens here. Actually that's not a bad analogy, because the springboks could bully you in that same way. Of course, I'm oversimplifying things.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, you might not be able to outskill the springboks either. You'll win by being better organised, and outsmarting them.</p><p></p><p>trying to beat them at their own game with size and height:</p><p>Richie gray vs eben etzebeth</p><p>Adam beard vs Lood de jager</p><p>Mari Itoje vs Peter Steph du toit</p><p>Tom Curry vs siya kolisi</p><p>Tadgh Beirne vs Duane vermeulen</p><p></p><p>you lose that game</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umaga's Witness, post: 995096, member: 65365"] I agree, you won’t beat South Africa at their game. And there is no like for like. On the one hand you have psdt, a world class blindside who is also a world class lock, on the other hand you can choose either a world class lock to play blindside or a world class blindside to play blindside, not both. wilson is pretty good in the line out, and has pace and dynamism to support an alternative style, so what if you went ryan Itoje Curry Underhill Wilson is there enough grunt in there to gain parity in the scrum, assuming your best scrummaging front row? I’ve watched a lot of all blacks South Africa games over the years and when they win its always been the same way. We always try and run around them, but when we can’t lay the foundation we fail. So I can see where people are coming from when they are looking for some more bulk and power up front, because we’ve needed it in the past even when not trying to beat them at their own game. the Northern hemisphere game has been fine tuned in recent years though, for some time they have been good at maintaining possession and grinding away, but in the past it has been insufficient because while trying to get to the try line by moving 5 metres per minute, you would eventually fail. But in recent years England, Ireland, and wales have all had times of extreme perfection in this style. Ireland and, particularly, wales have done this without strong ball carriers, though they have used some bulk. Then at times they have had insufficient bulk for this style, I’m thinking Leinster against Saracens here. Actually that’s not a bad analogy, because the springboks could bully you in that same way. Of course, I’m oversimplifying things. On the other hand, you might not be able to outskill the springboks either. You’ll win by being better organised, and outsmarting them. trying to beat them at their own game with size and height: Richie gray vs eben etzebeth Adam beard vs Lood de jager Mari Itoje vs Peter Steph du toit Tom Curry vs siya kolisi Tadgh Beirne vs Duane vermeulen you lose that game [/QUOTE]
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