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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 1169125" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>I'd have snooker and darts strictly in the games category. Any able bodied person can throw a dart at a board or hit a billiard ball with a cue, it's only precision that separates the pros from an amateur. </p><p></p><p>Golf is where I draw the line, it's the least sporty sport to me. Ignoring precision if you hand a person who has never swung a golf club before I'd say (being quite generous) less than 3% of people would be able to get clubhead speed of 110mph which is the minimum you'll get on tour. It's rare you see an amateur of any handicap have those numbers and those that do have generally played other sports that require a lot more athleticism and any pro with higher swing speeds has a noted advantage against others. Conditioning also makes a difference even at pro level, match play events are generally won by physically fitter players and it's rare one of the fat guys plays 36 holes in the Ryder / President's cup. To be honest I think with the rollback you'll see golf go the way of baseball where fitness and strength has really become a requirement, equipment won't overpower courses for less athletic guys anymore. </p><p></p><p>I think the improvements you'd get in darts and snooker from being in better shape are about as significant as the improvements you get in your job by doing the same. It definitely makes a difference but it's just general health benefits rather than increased athleticism being an advantage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 1169125, member: 45598"] I’d have snooker and darts strictly in the games category. Any able bodied person can throw a dart at a board or hit a billiard ball with a cue, it’s only precision that separates the pros from an amateur. Golf is where I draw the line, it’s the least sporty sport to me. Ignoring precision if you hand a person who has never swung a golf club before I’d say (being quite generous) less than 3% of people would be able to get clubhead speed of 110mph which is the minimum you’ll get on tour. It’s rare you see an amateur of any handicap have those numbers and those that do have generally played other sports that require a lot more athleticism and any pro with higher swing speeds has a noted advantage against others. Conditioning also makes a difference even at pro level, match play events are generally won by physically fitter players and it’s rare one of the fat guys plays 36 holes in the Ryder / President’s cup. To be honest I think with the rollback you’ll see golf go the way of baseball where fitness and strength has really become a requirement, equipment won’t overpower courses for less athletic guys anymore. I think the improvements you’d get in darts and snooker from being in better shape are about as significant as the improvements you get in your job by doing the same. It definitely makes a difference but it’s just general health benefits rather than increased athleticism being an advantage. [/QUOTE]
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