1st test - Australia v British & Irish Lions

[Saintjay]

So dramatic.

Even on the precipice of a whitewash you northerners can't help but be miserable *****.

My thoughts as an Aussie:
- blown off the park physically. At least start blokes like Bell and Pollard if our big boppers arent fit ffs.
- OKeefe is the limpest dick the universe has ever seen. Tackle in the air, direct contact to the head with the shoulder, 8+ penalties within the 22, no arms tackle on the try line - no yellow. Get the **** out of here you sheep ******* spastic.
- Lions best back was an Aussie so we still win. Suck my dick.
- only losing by 8 is kind of remarkable. If we get all of our guys back and actually pick LSL we may still be a shot of snatching one.

 

[curtbob7]

Nope. Just a comment out of nowhere when he didn't do anything wrong when he came on

It’s not out of nowhere though is it. A lot of people don’t think he’s good enough for Lions Test caps.

 

[TommiG88]

It's not out of nowhere though is it. A lot of people don't think he's good enough for Lions Test caps.

A lot being people of twitter? He’s playing the role of covering 10 and Full Back. I really can’t see the issue here.

 

[curtbob7]

A lot being people of twitter? He's playing the role of covering 10 and Full Back. I really can't see the issue here.

I don’t have twitter but can imagine a lot of people on there too.

If Kinghorn was in form or daly not injured he wouldn’t be a capped Lion.

I fully understand Smith going on Lions tours but it just feels weird him getting Tests.

 

[Derpus]

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Haha been saving that one up hey. Fair play.

You are still miserable *****.

 

[TommiG88]

I don't have twitter but can imagine a lot of people on there too.

If Kinghorn was in form or daly not injured he wouldn't be a capped Lion.

I fully understand Smith going on Lions tours but it just feels weird him getting Tests.

Oh yeah, Kinghorn will be in once fit. I would have Kinghorn starting though, and I would expect him to get the 22 jersey over Keenan.

Daly was his main competitor for that shirt I think

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Fact is Aussies hate to lose. Sure Union isn’t popular anymore there and injuries are part and parcel of the game. I’d rather a W from the first test than a loss.

This Wallabies team is not of the vintage of 2013 or 2001, and they have a Kiwi Coach who is seeing out his time.

 

[curtbob7]

Oh yeah, Kinghorn will be in once fit. I would have Kinghorn starting though, and I would expect him to get the 22 jersey over Keenan.

Daly was his main competitor for that shirt I think

Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if Farrell comes into one of the remaining test 23’s

 

[Rugbyfan564]

Personally a lot of that match was as flat as a pancake really.

Lions v Australia player ratings: Curry and Beirne silence critics, Lowe and Freeman struggle

British and Irish Lions win battle of the breakdown but performance of the wings is a worry

www.telegraph.co.uk

Lions
Keenan - 7
Freeman - 4
Jones - 8
Tuipulotu - 8
Lowe - 3
Russell - 8
Gibson-Park 7
Genge - 8
Sheehan - 8
Furlong - 8
Itoje - 6
McCarthy - 7
Beirne - 8
Curry - 9
Conan - 7
Replacements - 5 (Aki and Chessum singled out for positive contributions)

Australia
Wright - 5
Jorgensen - 7
Suaalii - 5
Ikitau - 5
Potter - 3
Lynagh - 5
Gordon - 5
Slipper - 5
Faessler - 5
Alaalatoa - 7
Frost - 5
Williams - 5
Champion de Crespigny - 6
McReight - 7
Wilson - 7
Replacements - 7 (Tizzano, McDermott and Bell singled out for praise).

 

[TRF_Olyy]

He's playing the role of covering 10 and Full Back. I really can't see the issue here.

TBF that is the issue, he shouldn't be covering fullback at all - it's mad they can look how he plays there and still consider it a viable option

Huw Jones is way better cover and Fin Smith has played better at 10

 

[ChicagoKid]

rewatched the game. That was not competitive. Oz can’t dent the line. They have to start Valentino and Big Willie next week or face a similar beating.

This is not a great lions team. It doesn’t ooze stardust like past teams but this Oz team has only a few top class players.

Woeful first game overall.

 

[TommiG88]

TBF that is the issue, he shouldn't be covering fullback at all - it's mad they can look how he plays there and still consider it a viable option

Huw Jones is way better cover and Fin Smith has played better at 10

I don't know if I agree with you with Fin. I don't think Fin has been particularly good down under, and Marcus hasn't really been given a chance at 10 as he's not been given a start in that role.

I’d add, that this has been spoken about pre tour, and during the warm ups. Just don’t think it was an issue in this game

 

[Jimbo]

Are you talking about that one advantage where they went 20m down the field? I stopped reading at this point because it became apparent you don't understand the advantage rule.

your arrogance here is pretty exceptional, you perceive to know my understanding of a rule that by its very nature is somewhat undefined, I’m not going to find it now but in your own words in an earlier post you said along the lines of you agree it should be over but more often than not it isn’t. I could get onboard with that, however the Aus pen advantages seemed to last longer in terms of time and distance so to my mind they also got more than the advantage. Clearly your not someone who can engage in an open debate and have some kind of superiority complex, off you go onto the no interactions list to avoid wasting any of our time further.

 

[Derpus]

rewatched the game. That was not competitive. Oz can't dent the line. They have to start Valentino and Big Willie next week or face a similar beating.

This is not a great lions team. It doesn't ooze stardust like past teams but this Oz team has only a few top class players.

Woeful first game overall.

**** me we only lost by 8, missed a kick and both sides had a try ruled out.

What exactly do you want to see?

 

[Derpus]

your arrogance here is pretty exceptional, you perceive to know my understanding of a rule that by its very nature is somewhat undefined, I'm not going to find it now but in your own words in an earlier post you said along the lines of you agree it should be over but more often than not it isn't. I could get onboard with that, however the Aus pen advantages seemed to last longer in terms of time and distance so to my mind they also got more than the advantage. Clearly your not someone who can engage in an open debate and have some kind of superiority complex, off you go onto the no interactions list to avoid wasting any of our time further.

Well, sure.

How's this. A tackle in the air, a no arms tackle to stop a try and direct contact to the head with shoulder should all be yellow. This is clearer than some vague gauging of the relative lengths of time and space one team is awarded for advantage.

Of course I'm arrogant. I grew up watching Australian cricket in the 90s and 2000s. Although I do support the Bears in rugby league...

 

[ChicagoKid]

**** me we only lost by 8, missed a kick and both sides had a try ruled out.

What exactly do you want to see?

Mate. I like you. You are irrational but you love union.

This was not competitive. How many phase plays did Oz run to the blindside and get whacked back? A dozen? 15?

Wilson can carry. None of the other forwards can.

If it wasn’t for a 10/10 play from Jorgensen, it’s 24-0 at half time

 

[Derpus]

Mate. I like you. You are irrational but you love union.

This was not competitive. How many phase plays did Oz run to the blindside and get whacked back? A dozen? 15?

Wilson can carry. None of the other forwards can.

If it wasn't for a 10/10 play from Jorgensen, it's 24-0 at half time

So why didn't they win by 30 (as I genuinely thought they would)?

I actually think I am more rational than I am given credit for.

 

[Groundhog]

No. You expected a pasting and didn't get it. The score line reflected the game. Wallabies came out much better in the 2nd half and for the most part, their bench was better. They had more than 1 try held up. They'll be better in game 2.

Did I expect a pasting? Thanks for letting me know! Don't think that's reflected in anything I've said but I will defer to your expertise

I thought Lions would win reasonably comfortably barring an Australian titanic effort, which they did. They weren't within a score of Australia from 10 minutes on.

Trying to take positives from that as an Australian is…. Interesting. The Lions were poor. Australia are a shadow of the team they once were though.

 

[Derpus]

Did I expect a pasting? Thanks for letting me know! Don't think that's reflected in anything I've said but I will defer to your expertise

I thought Lions would win reasonably comfortably barring an Australian ***anic effort, which they did. They weren't within a score of Australia from 10 minutes on.

Trying to take positives from that as an Australian is…. Interesting. The Lions were poor. Australia are a shadow of the team they once were though.

Both the All Blacks and Springboks beat us by much more and much more comfortably than that last year. Seems pretty decent, really, considering its the best players from 3 teams who are all better than the Wallabies individually.

 

[ChicagoKid]

So why didn't they win by 30 (as I genuinely thought they would)?

I actually think I am more rational than I am given credit for.

I didn’t expect a pacing, but I did expect Oz would struggle with the physicality.

However, they were great in the maul snd scrum.

Genge and Porter are shǐt scrummagers. I genuinely cannot believe the B&I don’t have 1 elite loose head between 4 countries.