Silent Sundays - clapping banned at junior rugby in yorkshire

[goodNumber10]

so what do people think of this?

Because of too much abuse on the sideline at junior matches all shouting clapping etc... is banned from the pitch side at all junior rugby in Yorkshire (or not banned but people have been asked to not do it).

insanity or understandable?

 

[Mumbles119]

Err... Really! Personally I think to ban or discourage it is nuts. We need players to know how to handle pressure and deal with idiotic comments and just get on with their game.
However, parents and friends of players should be responsible for their sideline behaviour, and be singled out and banned after a one strike policy for any personal abuse to players or officials. This could only be enforced if other spectators take responsibility and shut the offenders up.

 

[BRSTLDRGN]

Yes in some places touchline "encouragement" can go over the top but to ban people from noise? That is a massive and unnecessary overreaction.

 

[McTallshort]

My old man get sent off at a junior game once for abusing the ref who happened to be the disgraced Tory MP Jeffery Archer. Although its funny now and my dads only claim to fame it shouldnt happen but Rugby does seem to attract over competitive, bolshy, wannabe middle class parents who think their kids should always win and show great immaturity when they dont and sometimes they do need telling and mums are by far the worst.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Yeah... except that this happens in all juniors sports.

 

[McTallshort]

Yeah... except that this happens in all juniors sports.

It happens in Football but doesnt in Cricket and never used to in Rugby.

 

[BRSTLDRGN]

My old man get sent off at a junior game once for abusing the ref who happened to be the disgraced Tory MP Jeffery Archer. Although its funny now and my dads only claim to fame it shouldnt happen but Rugby does seem to attract over competitive, bolshy, wannabe middle class parents who think their kids should always win and show great immaturity when they dont and sometimes they do need telling and mums are by far the worst.

The worst are the ones who don't quite get the game and only turn up because their kids do get it and enjoy it. They then try to get involved with what they have gathered from watching and it often leads to overreacting.

I was lucky in that my dad, and most of the parents in the team I grew up with, knew rugby and so we didn't have many of the try-hard parents.

 

[lynam1104]

I think its ridiculous, it should be may clear that abuse ect. is unacceptable but banning cheering/clapping? Makes no sense to me.

 

[Irishkid]

It doesn't happen much I just think this has been massively over spotlighted. Let the kids sort it out.

 

[Tony Manx]

Like everything else these days, the vast majority of well behaved people are penalized for the actions of the ignorant few! Quite pathetic!

 

[Feicarsinn]

Well, yeah the ban is over the top. That said, I've heard some great things about games where parents aren't allowed on the sidelines. Lot less pressure on the kids, don't have their game dissected by a parent living vicariously through them on the way home, etc.

Having done a bit of reffing, I ****ing hate parents. The whole shower of the ********. You don't like the decision? You try reffing then.

I'd recommend every player and every parent of a kid playing try their hand a bit of officiating. Hopefully they'd realize what a god awful job it is and how nasty the stuff from the sideline is. I pretty much stopped giving the ref and lip after my brief foray.

 

[BRSTLDRGN]

Well, yeah the ban is over the top. That said, I've heard some great things about games where parents aren't allowed on the sidelines. Lot less pressure on the kids, don't have their game dissected by a parent living vicariously through them on the way home, etc.

Having done a bit of reffing, I ****ing hate parents. The whole shower of the ********. You don't like the decision? You try reffing then.

I'd recommend every player and every parent of a kid playing try their hand a bit of officiating. Hopefully they'd realize what a god awful job it is and how nasty the stuff from the sideline is. I pretty much stopped giving the ref and lip after my brief foray.

Exactly this

These parents think that watching an Under 13's game on a Sunday morning is the same as seeing their team in the World Cup Final. The refs are volunteers more often than not and dont need to be told that a 12 year old learning the game made an error.

It took my old man a lot of persuading that I no longer wanted to play the game anymore after my injury, he thought I could have gone far. I didn't. He still mentions it that I used to play with the now Hornets RFC First XV captain, a former Wales U20 front rower and a former Bristol centre and that I was better than them all.

 

[smartcooky]

I'm afraid this is a typical response to many things in the post-modern and politically correct society we live in. Its the dumbing down to the lowest common level of intelligence; the sledgehammer approach to killing flies.

2% of people cause a problem, so rules are made to deal with them that impacts on the other other 98% people who aren't causing the problem. It manifests itself in many ways in sport and education; the "no winners" approach (not keeping score), and the "no failures" approach ("deferred success, everyone gets a pass mark etc).

The people who dream up this stupid stuff need to give themselves an uppercut.

 

[Conal]

when i played underage in yorkshire there was some abuse to be fair. should just be up to the ref surely?

 

[goodNumber10]

When I was a colt, playing in Essex there was one team in particular where it was horrible to play.

I remember being spat on by their supporters, and our Werner was tripped up by one of them when he was trying to go around their winger... We stopped playing them and their youth section folded a year or so after that.... Truly some mentalists out there.

But, I don't agree with the ban.... Punishing the many because of a few.

 

[FrenchFan]

Hilarious. As a rugby dad and youth coach, this cracks me up. Political correctness gone beserk.

 

[Shaggy]

Exactly this

These parents think that watching an Under 13's game on a Sunday morning is the same as seeing their team in the World Cup Final. The refs are volunteers more often than not and dont need to be told that a 12 year old learning the game made an error.

It took my old man a lot of persuading that I no longer wanted to play the game anymore after my injury, he thought I could have gone far. I didn't. He still mentions it that I used to play with the now Hornets RFC First XV captain, a former Wales U20 front rower and a former Bristol centre and that I was better than them all.

Certainly not condoning poor crowd behavior at youth matches, and I realise that you are comparing the way some parents view the importance of matches, but it is interesting to see what's viewed as unacceptable crowd behavior at underage matches, and what's acceptable/unacceptable at international matches.

 

[goodNumber10]

Certainly not condoning poor crowd behavior at youth matches, and I realise that you are comparing the way some parents view the importance of matches, but it is interesting to see what's viewed as unacceptable crowd behavior at underage matches, and what's acceptable/unacceptable at international matches.

there is far more seperation of players and crowd at senior level... and youth rugby is about development of both the game and the players, ther has to be different standards.

 

[Shaggy]

there is far more seperation of players and crowd at senior level... and youth rugby is about development of both the game and the players, ther has to be different standards.

Not disagreeing that there has to be high standards at junior level. Lord knows I've seen some unacceptable things both as a player, and watching my kids play, but as it's already been stated, leading by example is the best way to set the standard. Why can't this standard be applied at senior level as well ... There's certainly some games I've been to, that I'm glad my kids weren't at.

 

[goodNumber10]

Not disagreeing that there has to be high standards at junior level. Lord knows I've seen some unacceptable things both as a player, and watching my kids play, but as it's already been stated, leading by example is the best way to set the standard. Why can't this standard be applied at senior level as well ... There's certainly some games I've been to, that I'm glad my kids weren't at.

absolutely 100% agree.