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They have played 7 games, they now have a minimum of 2 week mandatory rest period. That will put the remaining premiership games at 17 before they play.
They then have the six nations, squad build up is usually 2 weeks in advance of six nations plus games and 1 week off and mandatory 1-2 weeks off depending upon how many games. So that's 9-10 games off from the premiership season which if they take the required dates puts them down to 7 possible premiership rugby games they can play in.

Now if they dont take the rest periods I.e. opt out they could manage to appear in 12 games of the premiership but that risks fines over player wealth fare.

But obviously I know **** all so he ho
But they don't play premiership games throughout the entire 6 nations....
 
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They have played 7 games, they now have a minimum of 2 week mandatory rest period. That will put the remaining premiership games at 17 before they play.
They then have the six nations, squad build up is usually 2 weeks in advance of six nations plus games and 1 week off and mandatory 1-2 weeks off depending upon how many games. So that's 9-10 games off from the premiership season which if they take the required dates puts them down to 7 possible premiership rugby games they can play in.

Now if they dont take the rest periods I.e. opt out they could manage to appear in 12 games of the premiership but that risks fines over player wealth fare.

But obviously I know **** all so he ho
Europe is next week and two weeks before the 6n so you're at least two games out.
 
Isn't there a larger issue in that Exeter were the only club last season to not make a loss. While I'm all behind punishing clubs who break the rules it does seem that premiership clubs are often on a knife edge with finances and almost every championship club would ignore or be refused promotion due not having the stadium/finances to cope. If English clubs are overall struggling to compete at a European level outside of Saracens then it's a bit worrying as top level European rugby is the best experience outside of internationals.

As I said I'm all for Sarries being punished, but if more scrutiny leads to clubs not being able to actually afford the play top level rugby then English Rugby has a huge problem on its hands.
 
As the Irish Times helpfully pointed out, Saraxens have been more than 35 points clear of relegation for every year since 2009. The chances of them actually getting relegated are minimal.

Increases Leinster's chances of winning the Heineken Cup in 2021.
 
As the Irish Times helpfully pointed out, Saraxens have been more than 35 points clear of relegation for every year since 2009. The chances of them actually getting relegated are minimal.

Increases Leinster's chances of winning the Heineken Cup in 2021.
Would they have to reduce their squad to make them compliant? If so they might find things a little harder.
 
Would they have to reduce their squad to make them compliant? If so they might find things a little harder.
Not until the start of next season I think.

What do Sarries do in Europe this year then? If they want to qualify for next year (probably not top of their priority list but still relevant) winning this year is probably the only realistic way of achieving that. You'd imagine that they'll play to avoid relegation at all costs though and focus primarily on that.
 
Wigglesworth is out of contract this year, I imagine he'll retire/go into coaching.
He's one of the players that was found to be in business with the Sarries owners, so likely on wedge.
 
Wigglesworth is out of contract this year, I imagine he'll retire/go into coaching.
He's one of the players that was found to be in business with the Sarries owners, so likely on wedge.
Got a feeling hell go the French route and clear the England internationals out of his pack and load it with Pacific islanders.

CAN see the following going.
Kris
Mako
Billy
Williams
Goode

Either injury prone or likely to be called up.

Better to have a team with one or two internationals than pretty much the whole front row
 
You keep repeating this "7 game stat" can I ask where you plucked it from?
Alex Sanderson said the Emgland players would only play 7 regular season Prem matches.
Because he was working on the assumption they'd play another 2 KO Prem matches, and another 9 EPCR matches.

If they have to reconsider their priorities, then (assuming international clashes don't change things - which they will) they could play up to 18 Prem matches this year.
 
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Alex Sanderson said the Emgland players would only play 7 regular season Prem matches.
Because he was working on the assumption they'd play another 2 KO Prem matches, and another 9 EPCR matches.

If they have to reconsider their priorities, then (assuming international clashes don't change things - which they will) they could play up to 18 Prem matches this year.
Surely playoffs aren't really a possibility with the points deduction, so that's an extra 2 games straight away. And like I said, unlikely they'll be going full throttle in Europe.
 
I’ve been idly wondering this afternoon - what is the culpability of the players in this?

I can’t imagine they will face any punishment in the real world, but should they be held partly responsible? They must have known what was going on.

I think I would be in favour of PRL rules in future putting responsibility on players to check their payments were within the rules - as long as there was adequate support within PRL, dedicated teams who players could go to (anonymously) if they were unsure etc.
 
I heard the 7 game thing is a Premiership rule, not just a Sarries rule, but I can't swear to it. The Pro14 has different rules, and I feel like France's Top14 just ignore the idea altogether... :)
 
Living in Cumbria I've no particular allegiance to any top flight team seen the Falcons plenty of times as the most convenient ground to get to. I'll watch most league and Heineken Cups games where I'll back any English side so I'd say I've enjoyed Saracens recent success. The biggest shame for me having said that is the academy set up seems top notch and worry what the long term effects of loosing that will have on English rugby. If a rich owner wants to **** his money up the wall let them.
 
The biggest shame for me having said that is the academy set up seems top notch and worry what the long term effects of loosing that will have on English rugby
So why will any of this affect the academy? England's tier 2 has them, even if it comes to that which I doubt it will.

Sarries aren't too big to go down, they're not a special case. Seems some of their fans hubris (not you, Griz) knows no bounds.

Also LOL at suggestions Bristol are above the cap, with a squad with less names than the majority of the premiership. 2 Marquee excluded, Pat Lam said Bristol haven't spent up to the cap either leaving a bit of room. I would look at Barf, Quins and Exeter especially as Baxter said they couldn't re-sign their England capped players a while back due to the salary cap yet proceeded to do so anyway. Large squad too IIRC.
 

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