2012 Heineken Cup Final Preview

[Teh Mite]

Bravo, dickheads. Bravo.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

That's not the point, he puts a lot of work into his blogs and their good to read and he was right that Ulster will probably play ten man rugby and try to take Leinsters outside backs out of the game, he was also right about Ulster being the only Northern Irish team as their home is in Belfast and the majority of their players are Northern Irish. He was just trying to defend his views because he was given two pages worth of criticism and no encouragement apart from a few people.

 

[nickdnz]

Yep. It's really bad when you put a load of effort into something, only for people to tear it to shreds. Even if there are some factual errors included in them, the first thing that should be mentioned is a "thanks for the good read". Often I'll give these a read and don't comment to show my appreciation which is bad enough. Obviously these are designed to get discussion and differing views are totally fine, but it's best not to rip into a few inaccuracies.

I personally think of Ulster as a more Northern Irish team as do many people outside the Irelands. Yes, geographically it does include some of the Republic of Ireland, but it's still the sole representation of Northern Ireland.

You can't really criticize opinions of players as wrong. They may seem strange, but it may just mean that the moments that you watch a player play, are different from the moments others have watched. Obviously the more you watch a player, the better idea you have of their strengths and limitations, but you can't really criticize perspective.

No need to bring up the Gorgodze issue. It wasn't even in this blog and it's just an attack on a posters credibility rather than a constructive remark. It may have been a mistake or read from a faulty source, but there are enough wrong rumors of player transfers that one could be forgiven by getting the odd one wrong.

 

[Cave Dweller]

I don't see them as a poor attacking side, but rather a very patient side that builds pressure and then take the opportunities that present themselves.

 

[psychic duck]

Yep. It's really bad when you put a load of effort into something, only for people to tear it to shreds. Even if there are some factual errors included in them, the first thing that should be mentioned is a "thanks for the good read". Often I'll give these a read and don't comment to show my appreciation which is bad enough. Obviously these are designed to get discussion and differing views are totally fine, but it's best not to rip into a few inaccuracies.

I personally think of Ulster as a more Northern Irish team as do many people outside the Irelands. Yes, geographically it does include some of the Republic of Ireland, but it's still the sole representation of Northern Ireland.

You can't really criticize opinions of players as wrong. They may seem strange, but it may just mean that the moments that you watch a player play, are different from the moments others have watched. Obviously the more you watch a player, the better idea you have of their strengths and limitations, but you can't really criticize perspective.

No need to bring up the Gorgodze issue. It wasn't even in this blog and it's just an attack on a posters credibility rather than a constructive remark. It may have been a mistake or read from a faulty source, but there are enough wrong rumors of player transfers that one could be forgiven by getting the odd one wrong.

I feel you've misunderstood TRF nickdnz

There were a few factual errors pointed out by people, and this guy argues mightily trying to say that they are correct

you mention the Gorgodze thing, I just pointed out that he wasn't going to play for Toulon, which is a fact, and then Buck Mitchell started a big argument over it, it's not that he made a mistake, it's that he'll argue about these factual errors even when there is nothing to argue about

and when I told him to stop fighting when he got it wrong, he tried to say that it was his opinion and it was what debate was for, when it wasn't, it was correcting some incorrectly stated facts

I started a thread on "province of origin" of the Irish teams yesterday, when I was told Declan Fitzpatrick didn't originate from Ulster by Peat, did I start a fight arguing? No, I just changed it

as for the Gilroy thing, what Big Ginger 8 says is true

TRF nickdnz, if somebody said that Cory Jane was like Jonah Lomu, would you not say that it was a bad comparison?

Ulster will probably play ten man rugby and try to take Leinsters outside backs out of the game

nobody is saying Ulster play All Blacks rugby, they do have a big pack which is a big part of their game, but they are not as boring like Brive either

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Point is though, its constant criticism and the way it is said. To be fair you hardly said, apart from the mistakes its a good read - which to be fair they are. I mean its one of the reasons why we don't get ThisIsAmerRugby posting that often with his blogs.

Criticism is all well and good but remember people put time and effort into the blogs, if you feel you can do a better job that Buck then don't hesitate to get into contact with me and we can discuss if you fancy blogging for TRF.

 

[irelandfan123]

Well this was a decent way to spend my evening reading this....
ULSTER SAYS NO ...... to a few mistakes!

 

[psychic duck]

Point is though, its constant criticism and the way it is said. To be fair you hardly said, apart from the mistakes its a good read - which to be fair they are. I mean its one of the reasons why we don't get ThisIsAmerRugby posting that often with his blogs.

Criticism is all well and good but remember people put time and effort into the blogs, if you feel you can do a better job that Buck then don't hesitate to get into contact with me and we can discuss if you fancy blogging for TRF.

neither were my initial posts aggressive and looking for a fight

as Big Ginger 8 says, Buck Mitchell couldn't take any challenge to his post

you have corrected some errors in my posts before, such as once I remember I posted Rhodri Jones' age wrong or something and you corrected it, I didn't try and argue that I was right when you corrected what is a fact, not opinion (like Buck Mitchell keeps saying)

if I were to say Harry Robinson was like George North, would you not correct it? I don't see anything wrong with that, he also slagged off Trimble as well and Big Ginger 8 defended Trimble

if you can't take that and have such a tantrum about it, then Buck Mitchell probably made the right decision to stop posting

as for the blogs, I mentioned stuff I did on this site similar already above

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Did I say you were aggressive and looking for a fight? But what I can see is that there is little praise, yes there were mistakes in his blogs but when you are constantly getting criticism and not really even getting a well done, then what is the point.

Like I said, if you or anyone else fancies having a blog then get in contact.

 

[Cave Dweller]

Wish everyone would stop ******* over everything. A blog is just someones elses point of view. You either agree or disagree but you do not attack the blogger because just like you he expresses his point of view into a matter. It is impossible to satisfy everyone. Off course support for ones team one tend to be reluctant to hear anything except the truth about ones team. So lot of criticism means you have hit the nail on the head.

 

[Melhor Time]

Leinster to win this. better backs, better scrum, better playmaker. Best non-test team on the planet right now in my opinion.

 

[psychic duck]

Wish everyone would stop ******* over everything. A blog is just someones elses point of view. You either agree or disagree but you do not attack the blogger because just like you he expresses his point of view into a matter. It is impossible to satisfy everyone. Off course support for ones team one tend to be reluctant to hear anything except the truth about ones team. So lot of criticism means you have hit the nail on the head.

you miss the point, people are just correcting somethings, that's different from "attacking" anybody, going by your logic loads of people have "attacked" people

this post also puts you in the frame for the "TRFie for worst grammar"

 

[cyRil]

you miss the point, people are just correcting somethings, that's different from "attacking" anybody, going by your logic loads of people have "attacked" people

this post also puts you in the frame for the "TRFie for worst grammar"



I contributed to the first, and have nothing to do with the second other than some tables I made for somebody from another forum

Now, that's attacking

 

[lucky number 7]

We're all quare sound to each other aren't we..

 

[Cave Dweller]

you miss the point, people are just correcting somethings, that's different from "attacking" anybody, going by your logic loads of people have "attacked" people

this post also puts you in the frame for the "TRFie for worst grammar"



I contributed to the first, and have nothing to do with the second other than some tables I made for somebody from another forum

Are you feeling guilty? Did I mention your name. Your very defensive I might add.
For the grammar remark well that was almost as lame as your attempted insult. Your dick belongs in your pants, not in your personality my friend.

Now, that's attacking

I have heard better ones from spastic hillbilly's with web feet. Now thats replying

 

[lucky number 7]

I have heard better ones from spastic hillbilly's with web feet. Now thats replying

Leave me out of this you prick

 

[Cave Dweller]

Leave me out of this you prick

Well it wasn't aimed at you it was aimed at the quote you were replying to. But I have been called worse by better.

Edit: haha I do get it now but no.

 

[lucky number 7]

Well it wasn't aimed at you it was aimed at the quote you were replying to. But I have been called worse by better.

Edit: haha I do get it now but no.

Yeah it does take a second there ..

 

[Cave Dweller]

Yeah it does take a second there ..

A second? What has your sex life got to do with this?

 

[big ginger 8]

I wasn't aiming an attack at anyone I merely stated my opinion and as Buck said what is a forum for if not discussion. I actually said it was a good read in my first post. I appreciate it's very difficult to write a blog but I didn't want people who aren't particualary informed to come away with the wrong opinion. I felt he wasn't simply saying Ulster will play 10 man rugby but that they couldn't play 15 man rugby which IMO doesn't do them justice. I apologise for any offense as that wasn't my intention but regular users here know you have to develop a thick skin here.

 

[Peat]

Leinster to win this. better backs, better scrum, better playmaker. Best non-test team on the planet right now in my opinion.

That's pretty contentious.

Anyway, Buck, if you're reading this - if you don't want to write, don't. But if you do, then don't let some criticism get you down. It means people are reading it!

 

[lucky number 7]

That's pretty contentious.

Anyway, Buck, if you're reading this - if you don't want to write, don't. But if you do, then don't let some criticism get you down. It means people are reading it!

Yes this this this.

In the words of the wizened Abraham Lincoln..

​"**** the haters"

 

[big ginger 8]

Yes this this this.

In the words of the wizened Abraham Lincoln..

​"**** the haters"

You really seem to enjoy quoting U.S. presidents.

 

[Cave Dweller]

Yes this this this.

In the words of the wizened Abraham Lincoln..

​"**** the haters"

There is no such things as haters just that some people do not like you or someone so get over it. Its called life.
Not directed at you just a mere opinion.

 

[lucky number 7]

There is no such things as haters just that some people do not like you or someone so get over it. Its called life.
Not directed at you just a mere opinion.

Yo man why you hating man.

Ugh haters.

 

[welshglory]

Well this thread pretty much sums up why i don't bother posting on this forum very much...

Leinster to win this. better backs, better scrum, better playmaker. Best non-test team on the planet right now in my opinion.

The better team doesn't always win, Munster have shown this over the years...