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<blockquote data-quote="dullonien" data-source="post: 550966" data-attributes="member: 13739"><p>I'm not denying that Robshaw is a brilliant player, and yes I agree that it's the pack as a whole that wins games, not just one player. However there is no denying that there is a difference between the numerous 6.5's playing at the moment (SOB, Robshaw) and the classical openside, as Peat termed it (Tipuric, McCaw, Pocock, Hooper). Robshaw is a 6.5, a very good one, but I still think he'd be even more effective on the blindside alongside a classical openside like Tipuric.</p><p></p><p>All of those things you attribute to Robshaw, Tipuric does better imo, the turnover work, the link-play, the open field running (sidesteps anyone?) and I've also heard that Tips is up there with the fittest Welsh players, if not the fittest. What Robshaw is better at though, is the type of work usually more attributed to a blindside, the grunt work, the tackling, the carrying.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately, I'm not really saying Robshaw OR Tipuric, I'm saying Robshaw AND Tipuric.</p><p></p><p>Edit. England play with two 6.5's really in Robshaw and Wood, in a similar way to how France employ left and right flankers instead of blindside and openside (although in England's case Robshaw does stay on the openside of scrums). On top of this, Cole is very evident in the rucks, jackling ball. It works well, but means that if Robshaw does stay at 7 for the Lions, the 6 has to fit that 6.5 mould as well, so SOB or Wood, over Ferris, Lydiate or Ryan Jones.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dullonien, post: 550966, member: 13739"] I'm not denying that Robshaw is a brilliant player, and yes I agree that it's the pack as a whole that wins games, not just one player. However there is no denying that there is a difference between the numerous 6.5's playing at the moment (SOB, Robshaw) and the classical openside, as Peat termed it (Tipuric, McCaw, Pocock, Hooper). Robshaw is a 6.5, a very good one, but I still think he'd be even more effective on the blindside alongside a classical openside like Tipuric. All of those things you attribute to Robshaw, Tipuric does better imo, the turnover work, the link-play, the open field running (sidesteps anyone?) and I've also heard that Tips is up there with the fittest Welsh players, if not the fittest. What Robshaw is better at though, is the type of work usually more attributed to a blindside, the grunt work, the tackling, the carrying. Ultimately, I'm not really saying Robshaw OR Tipuric, I'm saying Robshaw AND Tipuric. Edit. England play with two 6.5's really in Robshaw and Wood, in a similar way to how France employ left and right flankers instead of blindside and openside (although in England's case Robshaw does stay on the openside of scrums). On top of this, Cole is very evident in the rucks, jackling ball. It works well, but means that if Robshaw does stay at 7 for the Lions, the 6 has to fit that 6.5 mould as well, so SOB or Wood, over Ferris, Lydiate or Ryan Jones. [/QUOTE]
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