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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_stormer2010" data-source="post: 677340" data-attributes="member: 39190"><p>[TABLE="class: wikitable sortable jquery-tablesorter"]</p><p><tbody>[TR]</p><p>[TH="class: headerSort"]Details[/TH]</p><p>[TH="class: headerSort, align: center"]Played[/TH]</p><p>[TH="class: headerSort, align: center"]Won by <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">England</a>[/TH]</p><p>[TH="class: headerSort, align: center"]Won by <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">South Africa</a>[/TH]</p><p>[TH="class: headerSort, align: center"]Drawn[/TH]</p><p>[TH="class: headerSort, align: center"]England points[/TH]</p><p>[TH="class: headerSort, align: center"]South Africa points[/TH]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]In England[/TD]</p><p>[TD]19[/TD]</p><p>[TD]8[/TD]</p><p>[TD]10[/TD]</p><p>[TD]1[/TD]</p><p>[TD]299[/TD]</p><p>[TD]286[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]In South Africa[/TD]</p><p>[TD]13[/TD]</p><p>[TD]3[/TD]</p><p>[TD]9[/TD]</p><p>[TD]1[/TD]</p><p>[TD]213[/TD]</p><p>[TD]362[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]Neutral venue[/TD]</p><p>[TD]4[/TD]</p><p>[TD]1[/TD]</p><p>[TD]3[/TD]</p><p>[TD]0[/TD]</p><p>[TD]52[/TD]</p><p>[TD]101[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]<strong>Overall</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<strong>36</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<strong>12</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<strong>22</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<strong>2</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<strong>564</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<strong>749</strong>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p></tbody>[/TABLE]</p><p></p><p>I think we have proven we can beat England in England. We should be more worried about Ireland IMO. Our record away against England is positive at 10 -8 overall. Even more so if you add the 3 neutral games. More importantly our recent history against them reads:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[TABLE="class: wikitable"]</p><p><tbody>[TR]</p><p>[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Date[/TH]</p><p>[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Venue[/TH]</p><p>[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Score[/TH]</p><p>[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Victor[/TH]</p><p>[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Comments[/TH]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]24 November 2012[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twickenham_Stadium" target="_blank">Twickenham</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London" target="_blank">London</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="align: center"]15 – 16[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">South Africa</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_end_of_year_rugby_union_tests" target="_blank">2012 Autumn International</a>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]23 June 2012[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela_Bay_Stadium" target="_blank">Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Elizabeth" target="_blank">Port Elizabeth</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="align: center"]14 – 14[/TD]</p><p>[TD] <em>Draw</em>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_mid-year_rugby_test_series" target="_blank">2012 mid-year rugby test series</a>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]16 June 2012[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Park_Stadium" target="_blank">Coca-Cola Park</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannesburg" target="_blank">Johannesburg</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="align: center"]36 – 27[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">South Africa</a>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]9 June 2012[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_Park_Stadium" target="_blank">Mr Price Kings Park</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durban" target="_blank">Durban</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="align: center"]22 – 17[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">South Africa</a>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]27 November 2010[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twickenham_Stadium" target="_blank">Twickenham</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London" target="_blank">London</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="align: center"]11 – 21[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">South Africa</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_end_of_year_rugby_tests" target="_blank">2010 Autumn International</a>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]22 November 2008[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twickenham_Stadium" target="_blank">Twickenham</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London" target="_blank">London</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="align: center"]6 – 42[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">South Africa</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_end_of_year_rugby_tests" target="_blank">2008 Autumn International</a>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]20 October 2007[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stade_de_France" target="_blank">Stade de France</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris" target="_blank">Paris</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="align: center"]6 – 15[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">South Africa</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Rugby_World_Cup_Final" target="_blank">2007 Rugby World Cup Final</a>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]14 September 2007[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stade_de_France" target="_blank">Stade de France</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris" target="_blank">Paris</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="align: center"]0 – 36[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">South Africa</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Rugby_World_Cup" target="_blank">2007 Rugby World Cup</a> pool match[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]2 June 2007[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loftus_Versfeld_Stadium" target="_blank">Loftus Versfeld</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretoria" target="_blank">Pretoria</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="align: center"]55 – 22[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">South Africa</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_England_rugby_union_tour_of_South_Africa" target="_blank">2007 England rugby union tour of South Africa</a>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]26 May 2007[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Stadium" target="_blank">Vodacom Park</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloemfontein" target="_blank">Bloemfontein</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="align: center"]58 – 10[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">South Africa</a>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]25 November 2006[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twickenham_Stadium" target="_blank">Twickenham</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London" target="_blank">London</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="align: center"]14 – 25[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">South Africa</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_end_of_year_rugby_union_tests" target="_blank">2006 South Africa rugby union tour of England</a>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]18 November 2006[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twickenham_Stadium" target="_blank">Twickenham</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London" target="_blank">London</a>[/TD]</p><p>[TD="align: center"]23 – 21[/TD]</p><p>[TD]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">England</a>[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p></tbody>[/TABLE]</p><p></p><p></p><p>I get what you mean though; we havn't faced them in 2013 or mid year 2014 and the last two games in 2012 where as tight as they come with 1 point margin over the last two games. That said I am not worried; 2012 England was looking as good as they do now and we were a year behind them ITO rebuilding those matches effectively being HM first as new coach. We've come a long way since then. We should probably win all 4 if Pollard/Lambie can make their kicks at goal.</p><p> </p><p>That said, yes the setup is such that the SANZAR nations wil have to knock each other out to face a Euro side in the final. It makes for better viewing numbers. If you wanted a 'fair' setup watch the Rugby Championship.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_stormer2010, post: 677340, member: 39190"] [TABLE="class: wikitable sortable jquery-tablesorter"] <tbody>[TR] [TH="class: headerSort"]Details[/TH] [TH="class: headerSort, align: center"]Played[/TH] [TH="class: headerSort, align: center"]Won by [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_rugby_union_team"]England[/URL][/TH] [TH="class: headerSort, align: center"]Won by [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team"]South Africa[/URL][/TH] [TH="class: headerSort, align: center"]Drawn[/TH] [TH="class: headerSort, align: center"]England points[/TH] [TH="class: headerSort, align: center"]South Africa points[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD]In England[/TD] [TD]19[/TD] [TD]8[/TD] [TD]10[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [TD]299[/TD] [TD]286[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]In South Africa[/TD] [TD]13[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [TD]213[/TD] [TD]362[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Neutral venue[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]1[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]0[/TD] [TD]52[/TD] [TD]101[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][B]Overall[/B][/TD] [TD][B]36[/B][/TD] [TD][B]12[/B][/TD] [TD][B]22[/B][/TD] [TD][B]2[/B][/TD] [TD][B]564[/B][/TD] [TD][B]749[/B][/TD] [/TR] </tbody>[/TABLE] I think we have proven we can beat England in England. We should be more worried about Ireland IMO. Our record away against England is positive at 10 -8 overall. Even more so if you add the 3 neutral games. More importantly our recent history against them reads: [TABLE="class: wikitable"] <tbody>[TR] [TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Date[/TH] [TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Venue[/TH] [TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Score[/TH] [TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Victor[/TH] [TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Comments[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD]24 November 2012[/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twickenham_Stadium"]Twickenham[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London"]London[/URL][/TD] [TD="align: center"]15 – 16[/TD] [TD][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team"]South Africa[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_end_of_year_rugby_union_tests"]2012 Autumn International[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]23 June 2012[/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela_Bay_Stadium"]Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Elizabeth"]Port Elizabeth[/URL][/TD] [TD="align: center"]14 – 14[/TD] [TD] [I]Draw[/I][/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_mid-year_rugby_test_series"]2012 mid-year rugby test series[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]16 June 2012[/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Park_Stadium"]Coca-Cola Park[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannesburg"]Johannesburg[/URL][/TD] [TD="align: center"]36 – 27[/TD] [TD][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team"]South Africa[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]9 June 2012[/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_Park_Stadium"]Mr Price Kings Park[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durban"]Durban[/URL][/TD] [TD="align: center"]22 – 17[/TD] [TD][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team"]South Africa[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]27 November 2010[/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twickenham_Stadium"]Twickenham[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London"]London[/URL][/TD] [TD="align: center"]11 – 21[/TD] [TD][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team"]South Africa[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_end_of_year_rugby_tests"]2010 Autumn International[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]22 November 2008[/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twickenham_Stadium"]Twickenham[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London"]London[/URL][/TD] [TD="align: center"]6 – 42[/TD] [TD][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team"]South Africa[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_end_of_year_rugby_tests"]2008 Autumn International[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]20 October 2007[/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stade_de_France"]Stade de France[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris"]Paris[/URL][/TD] [TD="align: center"]6 – 15[/TD] [TD][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team"]South Africa[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Rugby_World_Cup_Final"]2007 Rugby World Cup Final[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]14 September 2007[/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stade_de_France"]Stade de France[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris"]Paris[/URL][/TD] [TD="align: center"]0 – 36[/TD] [TD][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team"]South Africa[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Rugby_World_Cup"]2007 Rugby World Cup[/URL] pool match[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2 June 2007[/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loftus_Versfeld_Stadium"]Loftus Versfeld[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretoria"]Pretoria[/URL][/TD] [TD="align: center"]55 – 22[/TD] [TD][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team"]South Africa[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_England_rugby_union_tour_of_South_Africa"]2007 England rugby union tour of South Africa[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]26 May 2007[/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Stadium"]Vodacom Park[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloemfontein"]Bloemfontein[/URL][/TD] [TD="align: center"]58 – 10[/TD] [TD][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team"]South Africa[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]25 November 2006[/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twickenham_Stadium"]Twickenham[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London"]London[/URL][/TD] [TD="align: center"]14 – 25[/TD] [TD][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Flag_of_South_Africa.svg/23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_rugby_union_team"]South Africa[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_end_of_year_rugby_union_tests"]2006 South Africa rugby union tour of England[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]18 November 2006[/TD] [TD][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twickenham_Stadium"]Twickenham[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London"]London[/URL][/TD] [TD="align: center"]23 – 21[/TD] [TD][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_rugby_union_team"]England[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] </tbody>[/TABLE] I get what you mean though; we havn't faced them in 2013 or mid year 2014 and the last two games in 2012 where as tight as they come with 1 point margin over the last two games. That said I am not worried; 2012 England was looking as good as they do now and we were a year behind them ITO rebuilding those matches effectively being HM first as new coach. We've come a long way since then. We should probably win all 4 if Pollard/Lambie can make their kicks at goal. That said, yes the setup is such that the SANZAR nations wil have to knock each other out to face a Euro side in the final. It makes for better viewing numbers. If you wanted a 'fair' setup watch the Rugby Championship. [/QUOTE]
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