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[2014 Mid-Year Test] South Africa vs Wales (1st Test)
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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_stormer2010" data-source="post: 649847" data-attributes="member: 39190"><p>On the whole no.9 issue; I'm happy to back FdP for 2015. He is just pure class and slots into the SA setup like a well lubricated.. well, he fits in well.</p><p></p><p>The other options:</p><p></p><p>Pienaar; just no</p><p>Pretorius; too old, loose and poor on defense</p><p>Schreuder; injured near permanently</p><p>Kockott; seemingly outside the framework</p><p>Groom; not up to scratch</p><p>Van Zyl; injured</p><p>Vermaak; in France</p><p>McLeod; pleaase not</p><p>Venter; can't say I've noticed him at all</p><p></p><p>[TABLE="class: grid, width: 500"]</p><p><tbody>[TR]</p><p>[TD]Player[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Minutes played[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Kick/Pass/Run[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Tries[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Try assist[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Clean breaks / breaks create[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Defenders beaten[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Offloads[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Tackles made[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Tackles missed[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Tackle %[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Turn-overs forced[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Posession gained / kicks fielded[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Handling errors+[/TD]</p><p>[TD]Penalties conceded[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p></tbody>[/TABLE]</p><p></p><p>[TABLE="width: 500"]</p><p><tbody>[TR]</p><p>[TD]Hougaard[/TD]</p><p>[TD]1075[/TD]</p><p>[TD]98/553/91....[/TD]</p><p>[TD]0.......[/TD]</p><p>[TD] 2.......[/TD]</p><p>[TD] 4/4........[/TD]</p><p>[TD]12............[/TD]</p><p>[TD]10...........[/TD]</p><p>[TD]81........[/TD]</p><p>[TD]22.......[/TD]</p><p>[TD]78.6%[/TD]</p><p>[TD]6........[/TD]</p><p>[TD]69............[/TD]</p><p>[TD]19.........[/TD]</p><p>[TD]3[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]Reinach[/TD]</p><p>[TD]833[/TD]</p><p>[TD]66/255/59[/TD]</p><p>[TD]5[/TD]</p><p>[TD] 1[/TD]</p><p>[TD] 5/2[/TD]</p><p>[TD]22[/TD]</p><p>[TD]6[/TD]</p><p>[TD]31[/TD]</p><p>[TD]12[/TD]</p><p>[TD]72.0%[/TD]</p><p>[TD]2[/TD]</p><p>[TD]34[/TD]</p><p>[TD]12[/TD]</p><p>[TD]9[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p>[TR]</p><p>[TD]De Klerk[/TD]</p><p>[TD]507[/TD]</p><p>[TD]67/492/69[/TD]</p><p>[TD]3[/TD]</p><p>[TD] 1[/TD]</p><p>[TD] 7/2[/TD]</p><p>[TD]17[/TD]</p><p>[TD]19[/TD]</p><p>[TD]39[/TD]</p><p>[TD]16[/TD]</p><p>[TD]70.9%[/TD]</p><p>[TD]4[/TD]</p><p>[TD]32[/TD]</p><p>[TD]9[/TD]</p><p>[TD]5[/TD]</p><p>[/TR]</p><p></tbody>[/TABLE]</p><p></p><p>I think it's pretty clear that the two form 9's aren't involved and the stats are further damniing when you consider Hougaard has played some rugby on the wing and has had more than double the playing minutes De Klerk has had. </p><p></p><p>But that's just numbers. In terms of the quality/effectiveness I'd probably use rankings. This would be my opinion:</p><p></p><p>Passing:</p><p>FdP</p><p>De Klerk</p><p>Hougaard</p><p>Reinach</p><p>Pienaar</p><p></p><p>Kicking:</p><p>FdP</p><p>Pienaar</p><p>Hougaard</p><p>De Klerk</p><p>Reinach</p><p></p><p>Running:</p><p>Reinach</p><p>De Klerk</p><p>Hougaard</p><p>FdP</p><p>Pienaar</p><p></p><p>Defense:</p><p>Penaar</p><p>Hougaard</p><p>FdP</p><p>Reinach</p><p>De Klerk</p><p></p><p>Assisting/general:</p><p>FdP</p><p>De Klerk</p><p>Reinach</p><p>Hougaard</p><p>Pienaar</p><p></p><p>if that makes sense. I'd be interested to hear (read) other's views..</p><p></p><p>And you better +rep me for this as it took a damn while!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_stormer2010, post: 649847, member: 39190"] On the whole no.9 issue; I'm happy to back FdP for 2015. He is just pure class and slots into the SA setup like a well lubricated.. well, he fits in well. The other options: Pienaar; just no Pretorius; too old, loose and poor on defense Schreuder; injured near permanently Kockott; seemingly outside the framework Groom; not up to scratch Van Zyl; injured Vermaak; in France McLeod; pleaase not Venter; can't say I've noticed him at all [TABLE="class: grid, width: 500"] <tbody>[TR] [TD]Player[/TD] [TD]Minutes played[/TD] [TD]Kick/Pass/Run[/TD] [TD]Tries[/TD] [TD]Try assist[/TD] [TD]Clean breaks / breaks create[/TD] [TD]Defenders beaten[/TD] [TD]Offloads[/TD] [TD]Tackles made[/TD] [TD]Tackles missed[/TD] [TD]Tackle %[/TD] [TD]Turn-overs forced[/TD] [TD]Posession gained / kicks fielded[/TD] [TD]Handling errors+[/TD] [TD]Penalties conceded[/TD] [/TR] </tbody>[/TABLE] [TABLE="width: 500"] <tbody>[TR] [TD]Hougaard[/TD] [TD]1075[/TD] [TD]98/553/91....[/TD] [TD]0.......[/TD] [TD] 2.......[/TD] [TD] 4/4........[/TD] [TD]12............[/TD] [TD]10...........[/TD] [TD]81........[/TD] [TD]22.......[/TD] [TD]78.6%[/TD] [TD]6........[/TD] [TD]69............[/TD] [TD]19.........[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Reinach[/TD] [TD]833[/TD] [TD]66/255/59[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD] 1[/TD] [TD] 5/2[/TD] [TD]22[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]31[/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [TD]72.0%[/TD] [TD]2[/TD] [TD]34[/TD] [TD]12[/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]De Klerk[/TD] [TD]507[/TD] [TD]67/492/69[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD] 1[/TD] [TD] 7/2[/TD] [TD]17[/TD] [TD]19[/TD] [TD]39[/TD] [TD]16[/TD] [TD]70.9%[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]32[/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [/TR] </tbody>[/TABLE] I think it's pretty clear that the two form 9's aren't involved and the stats are further damniing when you consider Hougaard has played some rugby on the wing and has had more than double the playing minutes De Klerk has had. But that's just numbers. In terms of the quality/effectiveness I'd probably use rankings. This would be my opinion: Passing: FdP De Klerk Hougaard Reinach Pienaar Kicking: FdP Pienaar Hougaard De Klerk Reinach Running: Reinach De Klerk Hougaard FdP Pienaar Defense: Penaar Hougaard FdP Reinach De Klerk Assisting/general: FdP De Klerk Reinach Hougaard Pienaar if that makes sense. I'd be interested to hear (read) other's views.. And you better +rep me for this as it took a damn while! [/QUOTE]
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