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<blockquote data-quote="Peat" data-source="post: 665360" data-attributes="member: 42330"><p>Would we still be awful in how we used our wingers if we were given a Savea to work? Is this genuinely the best that Lancaster can set England up to give our wingers a go, or is it the result of thinking its more important to give Mike Brown, Tuilagi, Burrell et al ideal attacking opportunities? There's no questioning that most successful wingers recently have popped up in midfield repeatedly but England's wingers don't do that as often. They stay on their wings and force the defence to stay committed to them. Is that part of what's helping Brown and Burrell get so many tries? I don't know, but I feel it's enough of a theory to question whether England would play this way with better wingers. Besides, Savea would look better in those tight spaces anyway. Space is a luxury for a winger in any team these days, the ability to operate in tight corners is now essential.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The tactic is very much to go narrow, go quick, stop any runners by flinging yourselves at them desperately or with the two man tackle - most teams try to tackle with two men these days. It's worked well against most teams but New Zealand had found their way around it by the end of the tour. I'm not sure whether that means we need to change things. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Manu has to be in the team. We would be fools to leave out what he can do and what he brings. However, that doesn't mean he has to be in the centres. However, when we took him out of the centres, they immediately looked really weak. If we can find a centre partnership that delivers without him, Manu plays wing. If we can't, he plays centre. That's the way I see it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd agree about wanting to see a bit more aggressive carrying and big men. I have nothing but time and respect for England's current pack but I feel that the balance is clearly off. I feel that we need a few more players with x factor and specialist talent to offset the workhorses. Haskell's a better jackal than Wood too for my money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peat, post: 665360, member: 42330"] Would we still be awful in how we used our wingers if we were given a Savea to work? Is this genuinely the best that Lancaster can set England up to give our wingers a go, or is it the result of thinking its more important to give Mike Brown, Tuilagi, Burrell et al ideal attacking opportunities? There's no questioning that most successful wingers recently have popped up in midfield repeatedly but England's wingers don't do that as often. They stay on their wings and force the defence to stay committed to them. Is that part of what's helping Brown and Burrell get so many tries? I don't know, but I feel it's enough of a theory to question whether England would play this way with better wingers. Besides, Savea would look better in those tight spaces anyway. Space is a luxury for a winger in any team these days, the ability to operate in tight corners is now essential. The tactic is very much to go narrow, go quick, stop any runners by flinging yourselves at them desperately or with the two man tackle - most teams try to tackle with two men these days. It's worked well against most teams but New Zealand had found their way around it by the end of the tour. I'm not sure whether that means we need to change things. Agreed. Manu has to be in the team. We would be fools to leave out what he can do and what he brings. However, that doesn't mean he has to be in the centres. However, when we took him out of the centres, they immediately looked really weak. If we can find a centre partnership that delivers without him, Manu plays wing. If we can't, he plays centre. That's the way I see it. I'd agree about wanting to see a bit more aggressive carrying and big men. I have nothing but time and respect for England's current pack but I feel that the balance is clearly off. I feel that we need a few more players with x factor and specialist talent to offset the workhorses. Haskell's a better jackal than Wood too for my money. [/QUOTE]
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