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[2014 Mid-Year Tests] New Zealand vs England (1st Test)
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<blockquote data-quote="j&#039;nuh" data-source="post: 650334" data-attributes="member: 55446"><p>You're right in that it wasn't a massacre at the scrum. However, those stats don't tell the most important story of the scrum. Typically, it's rare for a scrum to be turned over. It barely ever shows in those statistics whether a team has been bossed around in the scrum. In fact, it often shows the opposite, as a dominant team is more likely to keep the ball in the scrum for longer, meaning there's more chance to lose possession. The stats neglect to show the number of penalties won, or the quality of possession, off the back of a scrum. England won one or two penalties from the scrums IIRC, around the time that NZ started rotating with the bench and England hadn't. But I wouldn't say the dominance was around for long enough a time to really say England had the upper hand. There were a couple of scrums that definitely went the All Blacks' way before then.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="j'nuh, post: 650334, member: 55446"] You're right in that it wasn't a massacre at the scrum. However, those stats don't tell the most important story of the scrum. Typically, it's rare for a scrum to be turned over. It barely ever shows in those statistics whether a team has been bossed around in the scrum. In fact, it often shows the opposite, as a dominant team is more likely to keep the ball in the scrum for longer, meaning there's more chance to lose possession. The stats neglect to show the number of penalties won, or the quality of possession, off the back of a scrum. England won one or two penalties from the scrums IIRC, around the time that NZ started rotating with the bench and England hadn't. But I wouldn't say the dominance was around for long enough a time to really say England had the upper hand. There were a couple of scrums that definitely went the All Blacks' way before then. [/QUOTE]
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