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[2015 RWC] Quarter Final 2: New Zealand vs. France (17/10/2015)
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<blockquote data-quote="Larksea" data-source="post: 759402" data-attributes="member: 43875"><p>it doesn't matter if he was the 1st choice or the 10th choice, slade was ahead of him and failed to convince on field before he was injured. Cruden was ahead of him and not considered a goal kicker. Donald turned out to be ideally suited for that game. And we may have actually been better off if he started and took the relatively easy kicks at goal Weepu missed.</p><p></p><p>ok so you said donald lost us "games" as in more than one care to go into more detail? Donalds record is ~24 tests ~5 losses, 3 of which were to south africa in 2009 when our lineout was completely and utterly dominated by the boks, one loss to france at the begining of 09 as part of a makeshift basically 2nd string all black team with a number of players on debut that performed badly across the park the only other was hong kong in 2010. Even in that hong kong game where critical mistakes were made by Afoa, Toeava (his rush out of the line on Beale was the biggest mistake of that final period), thorn and Kaino. Donald shouldered all the blame for not kicking a clearance into touch even though Aussie would have taken a quick throw even if he did. so where are all these games donald lost us? there must be some there that are clearly all his fault?</p><p></p><p>09 was the year of Issac Ross probably the worst All Black of modern times, 8 tests 4 losses. somehow got given the job of calling lineouts, he clearly absolutely sucked. Yet he was allowed to vanish into obscurity while Stephen Donald was tied to the rack and tortured. The issac Ross situation was so bad he was dropped outright and Hansen lost his role of Forwards coach Henry took control and Tom Donnelly came in and turned out to be absolutely brilliant.</p><p></p><p>I never said he was perfect, hes not. But Heck even the legends of has cost us games or made mistakes it happens. But Donald shouldered a much larger proportion of blame and public outcry than he deserved. Some from Auckland but the vast majority came from Canterbury surprise surprise.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>too late</p><p></p><p>doesn't matter as much now, he did win us a WC after all <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> IMO hes been vindicated as a player and a person.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what you mean, there was a massive difference between the pool game and the final. Just as there is a massive difference between the pool game between France & Ireland and the up coming quater final between France and the All Blacks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Larksea, post: 759402, member: 43875"] it doesn't matter if he was the 1st choice or the 10th choice, slade was ahead of him and failed to convince on field before he was injured. Cruden was ahead of him and not considered a goal kicker. Donald turned out to be ideally suited for that game. And we may have actually been better off if he started and took the relatively easy kicks at goal Weepu missed. ok so you said donald lost us "games" as in more than one care to go into more detail? Donalds record is ~24 tests ~5 losses, 3 of which were to south africa in 2009 when our lineout was completely and utterly dominated by the boks, one loss to france at the begining of 09 as part of a makeshift basically 2nd string all black team with a number of players on debut that performed badly across the park the only other was hong kong in 2010. Even in that hong kong game where critical mistakes were made by Afoa, Toeava (his rush out of the line on Beale was the biggest mistake of that final period), thorn and Kaino. Donald shouldered all the blame for not kicking a clearance into touch even though Aussie would have taken a quick throw even if he did. so where are all these games donald lost us? there must be some there that are clearly all his fault? 09 was the year of Issac Ross probably the worst All Black of modern times, 8 tests 4 losses. somehow got given the job of calling lineouts, he clearly absolutely sucked. Yet he was allowed to vanish into obscurity while Stephen Donald was tied to the rack and tortured. The issac Ross situation was so bad he was dropped outright and Hansen lost his role of Forwards coach Henry took control and Tom Donnelly came in and turned out to be absolutely brilliant. I never said he was perfect, hes not. But Heck even the legends of has cost us games or made mistakes it happens. But Donald shouldered a much larger proportion of blame and public outcry than he deserved. Some from Auckland but the vast majority came from Canterbury surprise surprise. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] too late doesn't matter as much now, he did win us a WC after all ;) IMO hes been vindicated as a player and a person. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] I'm not sure what you mean, there was a massive difference between the pool game and the final. Just as there is a massive difference between the pool game between France & Ireland and the up coming quater final between France and the All Blacks. [/QUOTE]
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