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[2015 TRC] South Africa v New Zealand in Johannesburg (25/07/2015)
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<blockquote data-quote="RedruthRFC" data-source="post: 735659" data-attributes="member: 58362"><p>The situation is indeed farcical - if a prop has played on the side of the scrum where their side is a man down during the past (say) 12 months, there should be no option for their coach not to designate them as safe to play that position.</p><p></p><p>Assuming the team who are short on props are being honest, then it's not correct / fair to say that it's the other team's good play that renders them unable to field a front row. Until someone comes up with a way of making sure that teams are being honest, an area of doubt / dissatisfaction will exist. I would be interested to see a survey carried out of level 1 / international games in which uncontested scrums have been necessary. In particular it would interest me to check out the proportion of the time that the props whose injuries have resulted in uncontested scrums have played in their team's next match and how this compares to other players who have left the field injured. If this turns out to be much higher than players in other positions, my suggestion would be that all teams will have to suffer for certain teams' "gamesmanship" and that injured props who leave the field should be ineligible to play in their team's next match.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You would be amazed how few coaches, captains, referees an fourth officials here in England understand this law. Within the last twelve months or so, I can think of three situations in The Championship / B & I Cup (level 2) where teams have been allowed to send a replacement out for the prop who caused uncontested scrums and finished the match with a man too many on the field.</p><p></p><p>I agree that WR failing to enforce this in international rugby is farcical.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RedruthRFC, post: 735659, member: 58362"] The situation is indeed farcical - if a prop has played on the side of the scrum where their side is a man down during the past (say) 12 months, there should be no option for their coach not to designate them as safe to play that position. Assuming the team who are short on props are being honest, then it's not correct / fair to say that it's the other team's good play that renders them unable to field a front row. Until someone comes up with a way of making sure that teams are being honest, an area of doubt / dissatisfaction will exist. I would be interested to see a survey carried out of level 1 / international games in which uncontested scrums have been necessary. In particular it would interest me to check out the proportion of the time that the props whose injuries have resulted in uncontested scrums have played in their team's next match and how this compares to other players who have left the field injured. If this turns out to be much higher than players in other positions, my suggestion would be that all teams will have to suffer for certain teams' "gamesmanship" and that injured props who leave the field should be ineligible to play in their team's next match. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] You would be amazed how few coaches, captains, referees an fourth officials here in England understand this law. Within the last twelve months or so, I can think of three situations in The Championship / B & I Cup (level 2) where teams have been allowed to send a replacement out for the prop who caused uncontested scrums and finished the match with a man too many on the field. I agree that WR failing to enforce this in international rugby is farcical. [/QUOTE]
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