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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 899685" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>To be fair, I haven't seen it much from Scarlets fans at all, S Barnes tweeted about it and others followed. The issue appears to be that Racing have to go to Bordeaux coupled with the idea that because we voluntarily take games there its our home stadium. This ignores that we have a worse record in Lansdowne than the RDS having lost as many matches in Lansdowne since the start of the 2014/15 season as we have lost in the RDS (3 each for a 70% record in Lansdowne and a 95% record in the RDS) and we essentially give up home advantage for profit as well as Racing needing a stadium of moderate size considering they have a weak fan base who can't be trusted to fill out a 48,000 seater stadium with much higher rent than the 33,000 one they're using. </p><p></p><p>We'll have to get another home semi first of all. </p><p></p><p>If its true that GAA stadiums aren't considered then there is literally no other stadium to go to apart from Croker which would get 75% capacity at best, is far more expensive and would still draw criticism due to being in Dublin. Thomond is too small for a semi final according to the original EPCR rules which are still de facto in place when they're not worried about empty stadiums like 2016, otherwise we'd be playing there. They either have to accept this slight advantage in the rules, lose 17,000 ticket sales, or punish Leinster for being in a small country by forcing them to go abroad, they do what their wallets want while causing the least outrage. If they do stop us playing in Dublin they'd want to be fairly careful about what they do with other sides too, Leicester and Toulon have both played home country semis in cities that are a 45 mins or less drive away, Sarries played in London Irish's stadium and while that's in Reading their tenants are a London side!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 899685, member: 45598"] To be fair, I haven't seen it much from Scarlets fans at all, S Barnes tweeted about it and others followed. The issue appears to be that Racing have to go to Bordeaux coupled with the idea that because we voluntarily take games there its our home stadium. This ignores that we have a worse record in Lansdowne than the RDS having lost as many matches in Lansdowne since the start of the 2014/15 season as we have lost in the RDS (3 each for a 70% record in Lansdowne and a 95% record in the RDS) and we essentially give up home advantage for profit as well as Racing needing a stadium of moderate size considering they have a weak fan base who can't be trusted to fill out a 48,000 seater stadium with much higher rent than the 33,000 one they're using. We'll have to get another home semi first of all. If its true that GAA stadiums aren't considered then there is literally no other stadium to go to apart from Croker which would get 75% capacity at best, is far more expensive and would still draw criticism due to being in Dublin. Thomond is too small for a semi final according to the original EPCR rules which are still de facto in place when they're not worried about empty stadiums like 2016, otherwise we'd be playing there. They either have to accept this slight advantage in the rules, lose 17,000 ticket sales, or punish Leinster for being in a small country by forcing them to go abroad, they do what their wallets want while causing the least outrage. If they do stop us playing in Dublin they'd want to be fairly careful about what they do with other sides too, Leicester and Toulon have both played home country semis in cities that are a 45 mins or less drive away, Sarries played in London Irish's stadium and while that's in Reading their tenants are a London side! [/QUOTE]
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