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[2018 November Tests] Ireland vs New Zealand (17/11/18)
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<blockquote data-quote="Leinster Fan" data-source="post: 921985" data-attributes="member: 76349"><p>I'd put a decent amount of money on Toner hitting the most rucks when he's on the pitch, and along with running him the lineout obviously I don't think he's a weak point at all in the team. Him and O'Mahony are two of the best lineout players in the world which we need tbh with Best's throwing being what it is and Brodie Retallick in the opposition. Even if Toner isn't at his physical peak right now, (and I wouldn't be surprised if he is but you can't say for sure unless you've got the inside info) there's no doubting he's at his peak at a player right now. His impact in the loose has increased a lot, his handling is vastly improved (admittedly from a low baseline but it's not rare to see him playing passes that are genuinely difficult anymore, that was unimaginable 5-10 years ago when he was a banker for at least one knockon a game). All our locks look way better when they're playing beside him and he makes everyone else's job on the pack so much easier. One of the most underrated players in the world IMO. </p><p></p><p>That ABs team is easily the weakest of any that have turned up in Dublin in recent memory, they're still really really good but the 2015 team would beat them handily (you could argue they'd beat almost any team ever handily though in fairness). I'd take our props and flankers without hesitation and even if they're obviously better in the backs, (if we could take those players the only Irish players left would be Sexton and Ringrose) I think our defence should be good enough to deal reduce the impact that their obviously superior back three will have to a manageable level. I think they're good for a close win though. I'd predict something like a 25-23 win for the men in black.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leinster Fan, post: 921985, member: 76349"] I'd put a decent amount of money on Toner hitting the most rucks when he's on the pitch, and along with running him the lineout obviously I don't think he's a weak point at all in the team. Him and O'Mahony are two of the best lineout players in the world which we need tbh with Best's throwing being what it is and Brodie Retallick in the opposition. Even if Toner isn't at his physical peak right now, (and I wouldn't be surprised if he is but you can't say for sure unless you've got the inside info) there's no doubting he's at his peak at a player right now. His impact in the loose has increased a lot, his handling is vastly improved (admittedly from a low baseline but it's not rare to see him playing passes that are genuinely difficult anymore, that was unimaginable 5-10 years ago when he was a banker for at least one knockon a game). All our locks look way better when they're playing beside him and he makes everyone else's job on the pack so much easier. One of the most underrated players in the world IMO. That ABs team is easily the weakest of any that have turned up in Dublin in recent memory, they're still really really good but the 2015 team would beat them handily (you could argue they'd beat almost any team ever handily though in fairness). I'd take our props and flankers without hesitation and even if they're obviously better in the backs, (if we could take those players the only Irish players left would be Sexton and Ringrose) I think our defence should be good enough to deal reduce the impact that their obviously superior back three will have to a manageable level. I think they're good for a close win though. I'd predict something like a 25-23 win for the men in black. [/QUOTE]
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