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<blockquote data-quote="Ragey Erasmus" data-source="post: 1015273" data-attributes="member: 56232"><p>I saw an interview by Mick Malveny now trying to claim that it was a "different Trump" or that he was surrounded with different people or that somehow what happened was different rather than the logical conclusion of years of Trumpism. He even said Trump had acted presidentially and that most criticisms were down to just "style" or "policy" differences. Yes even as they separate from Trump over this they really can't see that he's actually done anything wrong prior. In fact I would be willing to bet if they didn't think the outcry would be so large, they would claim nothing was wrong in storming the capitol either. There are enough Trumpers out there who still think that.</p><p></p><p>Apparently the American government owned news network that broadcasts only externally has had a Trumper at the top who has basically **** all over the concept of it being politically neutral, culled everyone who had a degree of professionalism, fired a reporter who tried to get answers out of Pompeo and has stuffed it with loyalists. It's insidious and like a virus, everything Trump touches immediately becomes completely politicised, ignores all laws and conventions and becomes little more than another vehicle for his progress. This is EXACTLY how democracies fall. The Nazis operated the same way, every aspect of German life and state got taken over and immediately weaponised.</p><p></p><p>There's an interesting political theory which is that it is impossible for a society to be completely tolerant of everything because there are people whose views are fundamentally intolerant. Their views cannot be tolerated because as soon as they get into power, they immediately start tearing down the tolerant system and imposing their own. A society that is inherently tolerant will always end up hijacked by the extremists. We have seen exactly this with Trump.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ragey Erasmus, post: 1015273, member: 56232"] I saw an interview by Mick Malveny now trying to claim that it was a "different Trump" or that he was surrounded with different people or that somehow what happened was different rather than the logical conclusion of years of Trumpism. He even said Trump had acted presidentially and that most criticisms were down to just "style" or "policy" differences. Yes even as they separate from Trump over this they really can't see that he's actually done anything wrong prior. In fact I would be willing to bet if they didn't think the outcry would be so large, they would claim nothing was wrong in storming the capitol either. There are enough Trumpers out there who still think that. Apparently the American government owned news network that broadcasts only externally has had a Trumper at the top who has basically **** all over the concept of it being politically neutral, culled everyone who had a degree of professionalism, fired a reporter who tried to get answers out of Pompeo and has stuffed it with loyalists. It's insidious and like a virus, everything Trump touches immediately becomes completely politicised, ignores all laws and conventions and becomes little more than another vehicle for his progress. This is EXACTLY how democracies fall. The Nazis operated the same way, every aspect of German life and state got taken over and immediately weaponised. There's an interesting political theory which is that it is impossible for a society to be completely tolerant of everything because there are people whose views are fundamentally intolerant. Their views cannot be tolerated because as soon as they get into power, they immediately start tearing down the tolerant system and imposing their own. A society that is inherently tolerant will always end up hijacked by the extremists. We have seen exactly this with Trump. [/QUOTE]
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