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<blockquote data-quote="ncurd" data-source="post: 1057491" data-attributes="member: 72205"><p>I'm unsure who thinks with a little reflection of Dunkirk as a victory. It's a defeat that allows for a victory of later on. Its about the coming together of small amount of people and what can be achieved as a collective (the small ships). Its about in face of complete devastation some hope can be found that we will continue fighting.</p><p></p><p>But it's the context that makes that story work it allowed us to eventually be a position to fight back. It within itself was not a victory.</p><p></p><p>Which is why it's different from Saigon and Afghanistan in that they have no fight to win later. This is the end of lengthy campaign ending in defeat whereas Dunkirk is the beginning of lengthy campaign ending victory.</p><p></p><p>Either way what Johnson said is nonsense the actual evacuation was a mild success we actually left plenty of people behind. Ongoing efforts by various groups and vested interests are trying their damndest still to get them back home.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ncurd, post: 1057491, member: 72205"] I'm unsure who thinks with a little reflection of Dunkirk as a victory. It's a defeat that allows for a victory of later on. Its about the coming together of small amount of people and what can be achieved as a collective (the small ships). Its about in face of complete devastation some hope can be found that we will continue fighting. But it's the context that makes that story work it allowed us to eventually be a position to fight back. It within itself was not a victory. Which is why it's different from Saigon and Afghanistan in that they have no fight to win later. This is the end of lengthy campaign ending in defeat whereas Dunkirk is the beginning of lengthy campaign ending victory. Either way what Johnson said is nonsense the actual evacuation was a mild success we actually left plenty of people behind. Ongoing efforts by various groups and vested interests are trying their damndest still to get them back home. [/QUOTE]
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