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<blockquote data-quote="Ragey Erasmus" data-source="post: 1058830" data-attributes="member: 56232"><p>Did a bit of researching an some interesting numbers come up.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jonhson loves to pretend he carried out some miracle with his current majority but actually evidence shows he barely increased the vote share for the Tories (+1.2%) and in reality to larger majority came from a collapse of the Labour vote (-7.9%)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In terms of % of vote per seat, the % between Labour and the Conservatives has not been that out of the ordinary (during the Blair years the Conservatives had a similar ratio of seats per % of vote as Labour do now). The SNP are way ahead with many more seats than their vote share would suggest they should get but that is balanced out by the Lib Dems who are getting royally screwed over in that regard. The SNP need less than 1/10th the % of the vote of the Lib Dems to get a seat.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">To compare that to the others, the major parties need roughly 1.5 times the vote % per seat of the SNP but the Lib Dems need anywhere between 2 times to 8 times the vote % per seat of the main parties.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2015 was one of the most even years in terms of the split of seats compared to the vote %.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The most interesting bit is, since the end of the Blair years there has not been a single year in which the Tories have secured a larger share of the vote than the Lab-Lib-SNP combined, showing how the split left vote hurts them<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In 2010 and 2017 the Lab-Lib-SNP actually secured a majority of the vote (over 50%) but still the Tories got power</li> </ul></li> </ul><p>Ultimately if the country had a more representative proportional system and the voting remained otherwise unchanged, we would have had continuous left wing coalitions since the Blair years. The Tories are essentially in power because the smaller right wing vote is concentrated into 1 party whilst the left wing vote is split between at least 3. It also dispels the idea that Britain is fundamentally a right wing country. From voting patterns it is fundamentally a left wing country that is frequently ruled by a smaller number of right wing voters choosing a single party.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ragey Erasmus, post: 1058830, member: 56232"] Did a bit of researching an some interesting numbers come up. [LIST] [*]Jonhson loves to pretend he carried out some miracle with his current majority but actually evidence shows he barely increased the vote share for the Tories (+1.2%) and in reality to larger majority came from a collapse of the Labour vote (-7.9%) [*]In terms of % of vote per seat, the % between Labour and the Conservatives has not been that out of the ordinary (during the Blair years the Conservatives had a similar ratio of seats per % of vote as Labour do now). The SNP are way ahead with many more seats than their vote share would suggest they should get but that is balanced out by the Lib Dems who are getting royally screwed over in that regard. The SNP need less than 1/10th the % of the vote of the Lib Dems to get a seat. [LIST] [*]To compare that to the others, the major parties need roughly 1.5 times the vote % per seat of the SNP but the Lib Dems need anywhere between 2 times to 8 times the vote % per seat of the main parties. [*]2015 was one of the most even years in terms of the split of seats compared to the vote %. [/LIST] [*]The most interesting bit is, since the end of the Blair years there has not been a single year in which the Tories have secured a larger share of the vote than the Lab-Lib-SNP combined, showing how the split left vote hurts them [LIST] [*]In 2010 and 2017 the Lab-Lib-SNP actually secured a majority of the vote (over 50%) but still the Tories got power [/LIST] [/LIST] Ultimately if the country had a more representative proportional system and the voting remained otherwise unchanged, we would have had continuous left wing coalitions since the Blair years. The Tories are essentially in power because the smaller right wing vote is concentrated into 1 party whilst the left wing vote is split between at least 3. It also dispels the idea that Britain is fundamentally a right wing country. From voting patterns it is fundamentally a left wing country that is frequently ruled by a smaller number of right wing voters choosing a single party. [/QUOTE]
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