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<blockquote data-quote="Bruce_ma gooshvili" data-source="post: 1068550" data-attributes="member: 74121"><p>I have zero sympathy with Djokovic or his father, but thought it worth commenting on here as a prime example of a seemingly very limited news story that is actually a part of something much larger. The utterances are consistent with various themes pushed by the Serbian government (with Russian support and sympathy, and possibly Chinese support given their increasing involvement in places like Hungary and Serbia). These are essential things to know for anyone with an interest in NATO relations with Russia or world politics in general. Out of respect to posters on an international forum I will try to be as neutral as possible. </p><p></p><p>Day 1 of this rant by Mr Djokovic Snr began with the NATO contribution to the Kosovo war of 1998. A war with convicted war criminals on both sides but where the 'West' intervened against the Serbs. I make no judgment on the right or wrongs of that. It was a less dubious decision than Iraq and I'm still not settled in my mind if it was right or an 'unpardonable folly' as a future Scottish First Minister (and current RT news employee) would call it at the time. Some kind of intervention of the peacekeeping variety was almost certainly required and justified, but something more forceful took place. The term 'genocide' was bandied around by NATO allies at the time of Kosovo, perhaps not entirely without justification, which is why Putin always speaks of 'preventing genocide' before invading somewhere. He considers NATO action in Kosovo was intentionally selective against a Russian ally and that it has set a precedent for Russia to represent the interests of Russian speakers outside of Russia and 'liberate' them (Crimea, Abkhazia, Donbass, Transnistria). It is also considered grounds for Russia to represent the interests of their historic allies, like Serbia. </p><p></p><p>Once that is understood, the rest, such as the two recent new items below and the tennis rant become more understandable. Djokovic is permitting himself to be used as a propoganda tool in Russo-US territorial disputes, as bizarre as that sounds. Most likely his parents have been coached in precisely what to say in order to play to the government's political base back home. There is an effort to generate the feel of war time atmosphere to increase support for the Serbian government and potentially to justify the dissolution of Bosnia. Just wait for the inevitable words 'preventing genocide'.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully this is just more sabre rattling to remind NATO that Russia has various cards to play (gas supply/prices, Serbia, Ukraine, maybe North Korean hypersonic missile tech (see yesterday's news)) should the US wish to pursue a robust policy in Ukraine and Belarus. </p><p> </p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/serbs-vote-start-quitting-bosnias-key-institutions-secessionist-move-2021-12-10/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/03/serbian-president-praises-russian-arms-shipment-in-alleged-arms-race-with-neighbouring-cro[/URL]</p><p></p><p>It is a very interesting time to study international affairs. Anything is possible for our species in the next 20 years and possibly the next 20 months. Glorious successes, more localised proxy wars (a la Syria and Donbass) or self imposed near extinction (not yet likely). You'll learn precisely nothing about any of it in the myopic mass market UK, US (and Scottish) press.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce_ma gooshvili, post: 1068550, member: 74121"] I have zero sympathy with Djokovic or his father, but thought it worth commenting on here as a prime example of a seemingly very limited news story that is actually a part of something much larger. The utterances are consistent with various themes pushed by the Serbian government (with Russian support and sympathy, and possibly Chinese support given their increasing involvement in places like Hungary and Serbia). These are essential things to know for anyone with an interest in NATO relations with Russia or world politics in general. Out of respect to posters on an international forum I will try to be as neutral as possible. Day 1 of this rant by Mr Djokovic Snr began with the NATO contribution to the Kosovo war of 1998. A war with convicted war criminals on both sides but where the 'West' intervened against the Serbs. I make no judgment on the right or wrongs of that. It was a less dubious decision than Iraq and I'm still not settled in my mind if it was right or an 'unpardonable folly' as a future Scottish First Minister (and current RT news employee) would call it at the time. Some kind of intervention of the peacekeeping variety was almost certainly required and justified, but something more forceful took place. The term 'genocide' was bandied around by NATO allies at the time of Kosovo, perhaps not entirely without justification, which is why Putin always speaks of 'preventing genocide' before invading somewhere. He considers NATO action in Kosovo was intentionally selective against a Russian ally and that it has set a precedent for Russia to represent the interests of Russian speakers outside of Russia and 'liberate' them (Crimea, Abkhazia, Donbass, Transnistria). It is also considered grounds for Russia to represent the interests of their historic allies, like Serbia. Once that is understood, the rest, such as the two recent new items below and the tennis rant become more understandable. Djokovic is permitting himself to be used as a propoganda tool in Russo-US territorial disputes, as bizarre as that sounds. Most likely his parents have been coached in precisely what to say in order to play to the government's political base back home. There is an effort to generate the feel of war time atmosphere to increase support for the Serbian government and potentially to justify the dissolution of Bosnia. Just wait for the inevitable words 'preventing genocide'. Hopefully this is just more sabre rattling to remind NATO that Russia has various cards to play (gas supply/prices, Serbia, Ukraine, maybe North Korean hypersonic missile tech (see yesterday's news)) should the US wish to pursue a robust policy in Ukraine and Belarus. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/serbs-vote-start-quitting-bosnias-key-institutions-secessionist-move-2021-12-10/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/03/serbian-president-praises-russian-arms-shipment-in-alleged-arms-race-with-neighbouring-cro[/URL] It is a very interesting time to study international affairs. Anything is possible for our species in the next 20 years and possibly the next 20 months. Glorious successes, more localised proxy wars (a la Syria and Donbass) or self imposed near extinction (not yet likely). You'll learn precisely nothing about any of it in the myopic mass market UK, US (and Scottish) press. [/QUOTE]
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